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[Covfefe buffoon] Who will lead the free world now?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by CometsWin, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    It's really a sad state of affairs when a sitting US President abdicates the American role of leader of the free world while cozying up to Russia, Saudi Arabia, and wanna be dictators like Duterte and Erdogan. Even worse that there are idiots who are out there cheering for it. What a dangerous time we live in now.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL crazy kids, of course the US will still lead the free world even if you don't agree with everything the president does. Stay triggered though, it's providing plenty of unintended comedy for sane people.
     
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  3. Space Ghost

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    Did you mean to start a thread just to rant ... or was this meant for another thread? This place is started to become worse than the GARM with pointless threads.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    He's triggered, just let him get it out and laugh at him for it.
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    No, it's meant to discuss Macron, Merkel, and the buffoon. The buffoon has abdicated our role in the world to the French and Germans. Why are you posting in a pointless thread? Go troll someone else with your BS. BTW, do you ever actually read anything or do you post gibberish on this board all day?

    Countering Trump, Merkel and Macron look to lead free world

    Emmanuel Macron Challenges Putin on Syria and Gay Rights

    Macron and the Revival of Europe

    It’s not just that Emmanuel Macron won and will become, at the age of 39, France’s youngest president. It’s not merely that he defeated, in Marine Le Pen, the forces of xenophobic nationalism exploited by President Donald Trump. It’s that he won with a bold stand for the much-maligned European Union, and so reaffirmed the European idea and Europe’s place in a world that needs its strength and values.
     
  6. sirbaihu

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    We can still bully Mexico.
     
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  7. B-Bob

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    It's not really arguable, at least for the next couple of years. We've said we want NO part in leading the free world. We're going to massively cut international assistance, back away from long-time allies of democracy and freedom, and abandon important international treaties. I mean, that's not debatable.

    So who could lead the free world? Germany is the obvious answer, but if China keep loosening its strings, I wouldn't sleep on China stepping in and making an increasingly strong bond to Europe and democracies in general. That would an incredibly strange turn of events, but they could really become incredibly powerful if they more fully married their growth, their resources, and their increasing embrace of science to an increasing freedom of its people.

    I mean, I'm not holding my breath for that, and I wouldn't welcome that necessarily, but in any case, it's a fair question. A whole lot of our allies are asking the question the "triggered" (sic) OP is asking. (Shrug) Just topic of the day, really, for anyone paying attention. Technically we're no where near a democracy anymore anyway. We function just like an oligarchy.
     
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    Yeah, Germany is a good answer. I think a lot of the world will wait to see if this bout of madness will pass in 2020, if it doesn't by then America will seem a lost cause.

    The isolationist strategy is flat out stupid in this modern age of ours where anyone could travel to another country on a whim if they had the resources to do so. It may have been a sound strategy in the early 1900s and before, but now it is just stupid.
     
  9. B-Bob

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    Well, it's a sound strategy if you want to gear up for major conflict. Over-spending on the military would fit that plan too.

    Having a chief advisor with apocalyptic visions fits that strategy. Seepin' Bunyon has, on multiple occasions, excitedly spoken of how each major war has been larger than the last and all these wars are just part of an inevitable pattern. Dude could be right, and then there are also self-fulfilling prophecies. Just takes enough crazy people.
     
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    The truth is we can't go on at this rate for even 200 years. There needs to be a big population reduction. The elites are now in the end game, grabbing every possible resource, syphoning money out of the US taxpayer on the pretense of war and other things, putting in place the foundation of a police state. The billionaires will be fine no matter what happens with global warming, the economy, and everything else. We have to realize it is the common American who is being choked out. If any of you clowns thinks Trump or other American billionaires care about you more than they do some random African, you're mistaken. Most major decisions are never even intended to help the masses in any way. The elites are in it for themselves, and they want the rest of us to turn to dust, the sooner the better.
     
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    I see Germany, based on resources and such but from a leadership standpoint I see Macron. I don't see Merkel as a strong leader, more of just a bureaucrat and there's nothing wrong with that necessarily.

    As B-Bob points out, the US retreating from the world is an opportunity for China to slip through the door and of course it lessens the pressure on Russia to mind its own business. Both China and Russia have to be licking their chops at this point.
     
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    Trump is the fake populist.
     
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    If I was Estonia, I would be more than worried at this point.
     
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    Between Macron and Merkel, what do you think will happen? Who will take the lead?
     
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    I think they are going to become BFF ;).
     
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    IMO Merkel will make Macron fall into line behind her. It's pretty clear that Germany's conquest of Europe was much more successful the 3rd time than it was the first 2 times they tried.
     
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    Live look at Bobbytheflake

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    Leading isn't leading if you can't pick which direction to go....what they really mean is "America isn't doing what we want and we're upset about it". The last president was a gimp b**** who would fall in line and do whatever he was told to do no matter if it was good for the country or not, this one won't. You can agree or disagree with him, but that much is clear.
     

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