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Could we say bye bye Luther Head?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Alvin Choo, Oct 15, 2008.

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What will you choose?

  1. Bye Bye Head

    76.3%
  2. Keep Head in place for Strawberry

    13.5%
  3. Keep Head in place for Wafer

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  1. Alvin Choo

    Alvin Choo Member

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    Look at those stats. I know this is only 1 game, while head is "proven".
    Its the preseason where the boys plays.

    But....

    Head is a 3p shooting guard with almost no handles. He cut hard, but his finishing in the paint is no good. His only good at the right side of the court. His small to play SG, and no skills to play PG.

    His 3p% last season is his lowest in 3 seasons.

    Wafer

    Good shooting nights, tonight he scored 23 points on 8-13 shooting.
    Against spurs he scored 14, with 9 in the first half.
    Not consistent, but he have shown ability to shoot as well as finished with a flushed.
    What i really like about him, is that he have good size and speed. TOs are low as he did not try to force his game too much.

    Strawberry

    I have like him since the trade for him. He came in with a suspected offense skills, which is proven wrong. This is the second game in a row, where he put the ball down and go to the lane. Shooting FTs at very high percentage. Nice shooting touch i might add. Much improve shooting form compare to the Suns summer league games.
     
  2. FFz

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    you ppl are so "what have you done for me lately"... Luther is a SOLID bench player. He's underrated defensively and an offensive threat. He just doesn't match up well against the Jazz...
     
  3. TTRocket

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    Can't cut Head because he is guaranteed money. Cut Francis.
     
  4. bingsha10

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    we could replace him with Wafer and probably get a worse 3 pt shooter (over a whole season) but better cutter and finisher who can dribble, but it isn't going to happen.
     
  5. tofu--

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    It's a really tough call.

    I'm not sure I want to be immediately enamored with Strawberry and Wafer just because of a few preseason games. They have both played generally well, but the regular season and playoffs are a different beast altogether. Head is a proven commodity-- certainly he had weaknesses (a good deal of them), but we also know that he can produce and has quite often hit some clutch shots for us. He is still young, like Strawberry and Wafer, so likewise he also has room for improvement.

    Now I'm not sure what management has intended for him, but I think it would be tough to immediately get rid of him prior to the start of the season. So I think Head will definitely stay for now and if he can somehow improve his game more or show that he's not a liability, then perhaps he will stay fro quite a while longer.
     
  6. durvasa

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    Or against our preseason competition, apparently.
     
  7. dexkk

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    Dude, they're both guaranteed money. Waive Wafer, Strawberry, Harris. Trade Head/Francis and then resign Wafer/Strawberry/Harris and Deke.
     
  8. Alvin Choo

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    I'm not saying cut head, but if thats an option that Morey is willing to take, i really hope he takes it. :)

    I'm just saying for that 3, who should take the spot? As back up PG/SG. They be 3rd stringers no matter what.
     
  9. Yetti

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    Wafer and Strawberry showed just what thay can do if given the chance to play. I believe I would rather have them on our team instead of Head Francis and Harris. :p
     
  10. Yetti

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    Rubbish!!! Head has cracked up in the playoffs for two years running! :p
     
  11. tofu--

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    Yes he has, but like some on the board, I've always thought it was just because Utah is a super bad matchup for him. If we had a different opponent in the playoffs he might produce better.

    Then again, I obviously don't know that for sure.
     
  12. TTRocket

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    Yes, but Francis is so bad it doesnt matter.
     
  13. baller4life315

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    He still has value so you can't just cut him. Hopefully, we're trying to move him for a future draft pick.
     
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  14. withmustard

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    as little as luther gave us in the playoffs, it was still alot more than francis gave us. Francis has done nothing as a rocket his second time around. It would be dumb to let our two sharpshooters go for secound round picks. Barry is old and unproven as a rocket and shane is still injured. Novak is gone, leaving us one luther trade, and one barry iinjury away from actually being a worse 3 point shooting team than last season.
     
  15. yobod

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    If we wanted one dimensional shooting with nothing else, we would've kept Novak. I think Wafer brings the same as Novak except he is 6'5. His stat line was 23 points, and thats it, nothing else.

    Strawberry brings something totally different, taking it to the rim with ease and nailing free throws with confidence. I think the good thing to do would be to cut Harris, and Francis.

    Bringing in Strawberry and Deke back and our team will be complete.


    1) Rafer, Brooks
    2) Mcgrady, Barry, Head, Strawberry
    3) Artest, Battier
    4) Scola, Landry, Hayes
    5) Yao, Deke, Dorsey

    14 players on our roster with Dorsey getting heavy minutes in the NBDL his first year. What do you guys think?
     
  16. Hayesfan

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    Has it escaped the attention of everyone here that those two kid did well against

    the Worst Defensive team in the League?

    East or West - Memphis was the worst last year, dead last.

    Shoot, even Chuck had 8 points.

    Do I think both of them played well? Absolutely. But lets not crown either of them the MIP of 08-09 yet.
     
  17. QdoubleA

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    I cannot believe I'm saying this. I don't think either of them are capable of taking luthers spot. Luther is a proven regular season player. I remember the commentators once saying Von Wafer has made several teams and can never stick. It'll take more than a good game against the grizzlies scrub squad to get rid of Luther.
     
  18. apxn82

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    man I understand some of you owned a Head jersey and dont want to become trash if they do cut him. I mean that's about the only reason why you all spoke so highly of him. He's an undersized 2 guard with mediocre defensive skillz and inconsistant shooters. We've given him 3 or 4 years already. It's not like there's something else hidden in him that we havent seen and maybe it will bring him to stardom this year. It's not like we're going to lose that much without him. That's all I'm trying to say. We're so deep this year, he might not see the floor at all even if we keep him. Why not rid him and sign Von just for fresh blood sake.
     
  19. mag

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    We should cut Harris and Francis and hopefully trade Head for some pick.
     
  20. BimaThug

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    Morey is desperately trying to trade Luther Head in order to get back below the luxury tax threshold. It's just good fortune that D.J. Strawberry and Von Wafer have played so well in the preseason. If Morey can move Head, he will have a difficult decision to make if he decides that the Rockets can only afford to keep one player between Strawberry and Wafer.

    If the decision was based SOLELY on financial concerns, I would imagine that the Rockets would keep Wafer. Without knowing the exact details of his contract, I'm guessing that Wafer has no guarantees. The league has a deadline at which time all contracts become guaranteed. That point is not until a month or two into the regular season. Strawberry's contract, on the other hand, becomes fully guaranteed on October 31.

    My hope is that the Rockets can manage to keep both Strawberry and Wafer while also managing to get back under the luxury tax threshold. We'll see.
     

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