Could the Rockets have a deal worked out with the Bulls for pick 4?

Cat, I firmly believe if the Rockets have a deal with Chicago, it won't be for Gasol. It will be Diop and the Rockets will pick for them at 13 and 18 and some other consideration.

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Maybe Rudy T is making promises again (a la Rashard Lewis (allegedly)). Maybe that is why Alton Ford is staying in the draft, too.

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. . . . And why Terrance Morris went out and bought a Mercedes.

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i see the Rockets taking Diop also


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***FRANCHISE***

 

I gleaned from the statements made by the individual that he felt that Diop was the type of player that could be the big man in the draft that could change a game. I have not seen Diop play. When asked about Woods the individual didn't appear overwhelmed with him. I won't rule out Woods and I agree with your assessment of him. I don't believe however, that the Rockets would move into the top 6 to select him. It's just a hunch based on the manner in which Diop was spoken of by this individual. Also, I'm of the opinion that somehow Dream will be back and Diop with his reported strength, size and athlecism will be a greater asset down the road for the Rockets than Woods will. Woods back problems while apparently okay is a red flag, particularly when the player is going to have to deal with someone like Shaq in order to win a title at some point.


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Woods is not the man, he was ok in college and has a bad back. That and being skinny do not help you in the NBa to last long.

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If the rockets trade up to #4, Loren Woods is a no brainer pick for them. I would not be surprised to see Woods and Battier battle it out for Rookie of the year next season. Woods is more skilled than people think and he had an off year due to injuries and an illness. He's my sleeper in this draft. With Dream tutoring him for a few seasons watch out.

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We are not drafting Diop!

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Fuggetabout it

 

Guys, if the Rockets get to #4, I do not think they will take Diop or Gasol.

At #4, you are easily looking at Rodney White, Shane Battier, Tyson Chandlier, etc.... No way Rockets pick Diop or Gasol over them.

If Michael Jordan can not make a deal to trade down to get Rodney White, reports are saying he would have to pick White at #1. Then the Clippers get Curry at #2 and then #4 could see Eddie Griffin on the table.

I also think that the Rockets have a deal worked out with Chicago. Clutch has already stated that the Rockets are unusually confident that they will trade up. Remember most of the years following the championships, the Rockets were willing to trade half their team for Damon Stoudmaire, and then they brought in Scottie Pippen, and then it was Shandon Anderson and Steve Francis. I think the Rockets will give away anything to move up to #4, and then will probably pick Morris (for Francis) at #23, who will either be the Cuttino Mobley of the draft or can compare Jewelry with Cato on the bench next year.

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Woods will not be successful at the NBA level. He often disappears in games and cannot bang with the big boys of the NBA. He's gained 15-25 pounds since his freshman year at Wake Forest (4 years ago). Trading up to grab him would be a waste since he might be available at #13. Diop has far more potential and has size.

If the Rockets got the #4 pick from the Bulls, I think they should go after Curry, Brown, or White - whoever is left over.

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I agree, Loren Woods and Gasol are not worth the #4 pick. At 4 we're talking Brown, Curry, Battier, Griffin, or White. I think that the Celtics will move up to the four spot and the Rockets, will move to the 7 or 9 if anything. Gasol will probably be around at pick 7 or 9 unless the Grizz roll the dice.

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"Oh No..."
-Bill Walton in 97 just before Stockton's buzzer beater

 

If the Wizards select White at #1 that opens up a whole new world of opportunity at the #4 and even #6-7 picks. Griffen and/or Brown would still be available at 4...but I don't know if the Rockets offer is going to be enough for the Bulls at #4.

I really hope the Rockets do not take Woods or Chandler anywhere in the top 5. That is simply to high for Woods, and I think Chandler might even fall out of the lottery, or go around #10. White, Griffen, Diop, Gasol, Brown, and Battier are the only possibilities IMO.

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Now saw off...there's nothing to see here.

 

Another thought, if the Rockets get to #4 and pick up a SF/PF, then Morris at #23, who is going to play center?

Do you think since Chicago might be the only place that might give Cato a chance, that a trade involving Brad Miller and Cato is in the works. I just dont see Kraus doing this without getting alot in return. Maybe the Rockets are going to relieve them of the Bryce Drew pick, and offer some future 1st rounders and Kenny Thomas,etc..

Second problem is that Kraus wants Tinsley at PG, and Boston picks ahead of us at #10 & #11. If Gasol does not go in the top #6, you know he will be one of Bostons picks,and the other might be a PG to spoil Krauses Draft Night Again!!!!

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since75, obviously Carroll Dawson and Co. are going to surround themselves by people that will disagree with them from time to time... were you able to determine if your source's intuition mirrored the view of the organization or was it just another scout in a group of 10>??

I ask b/c Diop, IMO, is almost as much of a reach as Woods or Gasol at the #4. At the #4, I'd probably take (in order):

Brown, White, Griffin, Battier. If all four of those players break both of their legs and both of their arms before the draft, then:

Johnson, Diop, Chandler, Radmonovic

I could see trading for the #7 - #9 for Diop... but not the #4. It's too risk expensive, IMO.

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When this guy started smoking 40 years ago, people had no idea it was bad for you. People had to guess based on the hacking cough, shortness of breath, and bloody phlegm

girl you looks good won't you mock that draft up?!

 

Achebe, I can't say for sure that it was the sentiment of the organization or the actual powers that be (Rudy/CD). It may have been that person's professional opinion about who he felt was a legitimate game changer in the post. It was just an opinion but his opinion happens to be one from someone in the organization. I really don't know. I agree with you on the more immediate impact of the players you named, however, as I said earlier, I'm looking down the road a year or two and also expecting Dream to be back.



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Regarding the original question in this thread: I read a quote by Gasol's agent saying that Gasol made the decision to stay in the draft when the agent told him he was a definite top-ten pick. Of course, he could get drafted and wait a year to come to the NBA. (Sorry I can't remember where I read it.)

Insider's assumption is that a cetain team made the guarantee to pick him in the top six. I think that's a faulty assumption. His agent could comfortably tell Pau he's a definite top-ten guy (or maybe top-six, according to the buzz), even without a promise from a named team.

It's just good business sense to enter the draft with your stock as high as P-Gas's.

BTW, I think it's Boston who has worked out a deal to move up, based on their timing in exercising their option to get the number 11 pick. I.e., they exercised it earlier than necessary, probably to get a deal done then.

Barbourdg - Great jewelery comment.

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The Celtics really need a center or PG. Curry is the only one that is close to a sure thing...and even with him there are major question marks. Trading up to #4 may not pull him in anyway. And I don't think Diop is worth a #4 pick at this time. I personally think the Celtics are better off holding and drafting Tinsley and Haywood/Woods/Murphy in the later half. Maybe Diop will be around as well.

Hopefully, this is how Boston see things as well and Houston can sneak in and get a deal done with their lower first rounders to get the #4.

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What is all this talk about Woods at #4? Are you kidding me? There is no way he is even a lottery pick. He will go between 18 and 25.

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