I keep reading that Toronto needs a point guard in the worst way. Would Drew fit their need? And if so, what else would we have to give Toronto to make that trade go through? Let's see what we've got: 1 - this years draft pick 2 - Detroit's pick 3 - Orlando's pick 4 - Vancouver's pick 5 - Wizard 6 - TMass 7 - Kenny Thomas 8 - Carlos Rogers They don't need Mobley, since they have Christie, and I hope Mobley is a part of our backcourt of the future. I wouldn't want to have to lose Thomas, bacause he might turn out to be the sleeper of this year's draft, but he'd be a good backup and future replacement for Oakley and Rogers might be a sentimental favorite, now that he's coming into his own again. Of course, if we could get McGrady for Drew, picks and Wizard or TMass, I'd love it. I don't think there is a 3 of McGrady's quality in this years' draft.
I will name you a 3 of mcgrady quality and better. No its not kenyon martin.. But its cincinnatis own DEMARR JOHNSON. He is 6'9, athletic and can shoot the ball really well. He has game and I think he can fit this system really well. But I wouldnt deal for Tracy, because he wants money and he will leave houston if we get him. Besides the raptors want to keep him till the end of the season and maybe work something out.
I would be inclined to trade our #1 (say an 8-9 pick), another mid 1st rounder, Drew + Walt, TMas, or (maybe KT) KT. That seems like a lot, and would be a pretty good package to offer Toronto (from their perspective I was thinking as well). Though we give up a lot, I was thinking it might be worth it after I have seen the recent GS trade for Hughes (yes, he still can't shoot but he is going to be effective). A guy younger than most rookies (e.g., Hughes or McGrady) who has already shown they can play at least a little in the NBA (with extremely high talent ceilings I might add), are certainly closer to a sure thing than even a very good draft pick (say a 4-6 pick). Plus we could do a trade like this and kick some A the rest of the year because we don't have to worry about draft position. It all really depends on how anxious Toronto is to unload T-Mac and the kind of offers they get. But losing a potentially solid PG and a potentially solid forward and two mid-first round picks would be worth it in order to acquire a younger and better player with a tremendously high ceiling. I say we go for it all out even if we have to trade the whole team except the 3 main guards and Cato. If Mobley has to be part of the trade, then we have to do more positioning and negotiating however.
sir scarvy, If you're going to trade our possible 8-9 pick AND trade KT, I'd have to nix the trade. I haven't looked at how others in the latter part of the draft are doing, but I would think KT has got to be among the steals of this past draft. I love McGrady, but if you're giving up our pick and KT, I just think that's a bit too much. That being said, that may be what Toronto's expecting... I can guarantee they're making a play at Cuttino if we ask for McGrady. Lastly, with our frontline quality and depth problems due to injury, I don't want to lose KT. Acquiring McGrady doesn't replace losing KT for this team. Acquiring McGrady to an extent can replace losing a Mobley, although even there we end up losing talent for "potential". ------------------ trade them all and fire the coach.
We are not getting mcgrady. toronto will keep him and either re sign him this summer or make a sign and trade. or mcgrady will take off for orlando. and francis3 is right dermarr would be a good fit. if not dermarr someone who is 6'7-6'9 who is explosive and a good athlete. yes mcgrady fits the bill but we wont get him end of discussion. and correct me if im wrong but bskball.com said that detroit can take our pick from somewhere and that we owe vancouver a pick this year. im not sure if its true but they say it was a list from the GM office. of course they could be full of absolute bullcrap. ------------------ --TEX [This message has been edited by TeXaSalsa (edited February 21, 2000).]
You could be right, but Toronto would be stupid to just let him go to Orlando in the free agent market rather than getting a Mobley or atleast a Drew plus a lot of picks or the like. Remember how we got Stevie or traded Pippen, in both cases one team had to trade a player for the best deal they could get.
People, this is THE YEAR FOR FORWARDS in the draft. The draft is overloaded with SGs, SFs, and PFs. We can get a quality guy with our lottery pick. We have to give up quite a lot for McGrady. It ain't worth it. I don't think there is a 3 of McGrady's quality in this years' draft. Well lets see...there's Terrance Morris, Darius Miles, Gerald Griffen, Dermarr Johnson, Richardson...
How are two high schoolers on the level of Tracey McGrady? That's just ridiculous. Hell I don't even rate Terence Morris as high as McGrady and there's a good chance he won't come out. Richardson will play SG and doesn't have the talent of McGrady either. "Acquiring McGrady to an extent can replace losing a Mobley, although even there we end up losing talent for "potential". Hey if McGrady's potential already produces more than Mobley's talent, then I'll take McGrady. Anyways, a trade for McGrady is highly unlikely.
Let's see what we've got: 1 - this years draft pick 2 - Detroit's pick 3 - Orlando's pick 4 - Vancouver's pick 5 - Wizard 6 - TMass 7 - Kenny Thomas 8 - Carlos Rogers How did we get a 1st rounder from Vancouver? As far as the draft prospects, Johnson is a freshman, Richardson (who is a guard)is a sophmore and Morris is a junior. There's no guarentee that those guys are coming out. [This message has been edited by aelliott (edited February 22, 2000).] [This message has been edited by aelliott (edited February 22, 2000).]
You are right Sir Scarvajal, Toronto would be stupid to lose him without getting anything in return, but we would be even more stupid to trade for him and then lose him to free agency after the season.
Based on his play (or lack thereof) of late, I would be shocked if Richardson came out. My gut says take him off of any potential draft list for this summer.
