CONTROVERSY GREETS EARLY VOTING (here we go again)

Speaking of, in Dallas, there is controversy over the touch-screen voting machines. It seems that some of the ones in Dallas are not very well calibrated (or so the story goes), and when voters are touching the screen at the Democrats name, it's reading it as a vote for the Republican.

The problem is apparently being corrected.

 

If you're going to let some jackass frustrate you to the point that you won't vote...then you don't take voting seriously.

 

If you're going to let some jackass frustrate you to the point that you won't vote...then you don't take voting seriously.

Or maybe you don't appreciate being harassed illegally when no one is doing anything to stop it, and when it's not clear what is and isn't required.

Why aren't the poll managers kicking these people out of the polling areas if they are violating the law?

 

Count me in the young voters who don't care to vote camp.

I am 19 years old, do not care to register to vote, and its not hard to understand why, give me some politicians who I would have interest in or who actually bother to debate issues, not mudsling all the time. Which is rare.

 

There is another voting scandal going on here in Arkansas. In a county with two Universities, some group got a judge to not allow the students that live in dorms who registered as voters in that county to vote there. So, in essence, the kids can't go to the polls and vote.

There was a big rally against it in Little Rock today.

 

Nobody was stopping anybody from punching the ballot. I get your point, but I simply don't agree. These a-holes were telling voters that their ballots would be challenged. All the voters had to do was say: "Fine...challenge my ballot. I'm going to go vote now."

 

Let it be known to all that DVauthrin has WAIVED his right to b**** whenever the elected officials are running the country in a way he does not like. You don't get to complain if you don't vote.

IMO...it is your civic duty to vote. There is no point to democracy if the people do not vote.

 

Didn't the Republicans do this during the Gore/Bush election? Does it ever get old for them?

 

Haha. According to George Carlin, since I didn't vote for the guy that's focking up, I can b****. You voted for the guy focking up, so you can't.

 

Nobody was stopping anybody from punching the ballot. I get your point, but I simply don't agree. These a-holes were telling voters that their ballots would be challenged. All the voters had to do was say: "Fine...challenge my ballot. I'm going to go vote now."

I think the better solution would be to report it and come back another time to vote. It would be one thing if this were on election day, but they have another 2 weeks to get their vote in right now.

 

I am a bit confused by the story. Who initially verifed the voter's ID so that it was "noted" on the ballot? Where did the voters get the ballots? What is their big concern about producing their ID?

When I vote on election day, I show my ID, get a ballot and go to the voting booth. If, while I am walking the 30 feet or so to the voting booth, someone else asked me for my ID, it wouldn't bother me to show it. If, prior to turning the ballot in, someone asked me for my ID again, I'd show it again.

 

So if a guy you didn't like was running un-opposed, you'd vote for him?

 

I am a bit confused by the story. Who initially verifed the voter's ID so that it was "noted" on the ballot? Where did the voters get the ballots? What is their big concern about producing their ID?

When I vote on election day, I show my ID, get a ballot and go to the voting booth. If, while I am walking the 30 feet or so to the voting booth, someone else asked me for my ID, it wouldn't bother me to show it. If, prior to turning the ballot in, someone asked me for my ID again, I'd show it again.

Some people don't want people who work for random private organizations invading their privacy. The people who check your ID at the polls have a legal right to do so and are doing so on the behalf of local government.

The poll watchers are members of private organizations. I don't want a private organization seeing and possibly recording my private information which they could then use for any purpose they wish. I certainly don't want them photographing it as some of these people were doing.

 

It is not my civic duty to vote, Refman, sorry to hurt your feelings. It is a right I have as a law-abiding citizen of 18 years of age or older to use within my own realm of judgment. Last time I checked, no one stuck a gun to my head forcing me to vote, especially when my vote would influence the election without myself having any basis for having placed it.

If I did vote right now I would be wasting it, so I feel I am better off not voting.

And I reserve the right to b**** about people who all they ever do is bash each other or show how many campaign contributions they can receive.

Gee, I picked up the Austin-American Statesman, yeah I know what a great paper, lol, but besides the point, I was looking for election stories to cover for my radio class and guess what I found:

90% or so of election coverage was who bashed who today or how campaign contributions influence the races. No mention of the politicians actual stands, how covenient

Furthermore, voting in this country is a double edged sword: because young people don't vote politicians forget to focus on us, which in turn causes us to continue to not vote.

Overall, I'm so sorry, that you think voting is my civic duty, do I respect it, yes, but I am not going to vote when I am uninformed about an election, and when the politicians could give a rat's a** about my generation in general.

Plus, let me know when most big politics isn't just a big game about who can win a competition to get into office and they actually want to seriously address issues, rather than make mudsling, and talk about the money they've raised, or their past work as an elected official-which has no relevance in the election.

So, In conclusion, just because you want to bash me for not voting, why don't you bother to consider my reasons for doing so, before labeling me unpatriotic.

 

It's ok...the rest of us will make sure that the hard decisions are made for you. That's basically what you consent to when you don't vote.

 

Will you be able to account/speculate for me what politician A will have done that politician B didn't?

To me, voting is just like supporting your political party. It's starting to get old. I've already voted, but as I sit here, I can't help but think, what's the point?

 

I see...I misread the story and was assuming that the "poll watchers" were actually "poll workers". Thanks for the clarification.

 

Refman, if you are calling me a quitter or someone who can't take the heat, give me a break.

I will vote when I feel like the candidates are worth a damn, or if it is an issue that would affect my generation or myself.

Right now, I am completely uninformed about these races and therefore, would rather not throw my vote away.

And I do not care for politics in general, because those running have forgotten what counts are the issues at hand, not who spends more to get into office or who can bash the other candidate the best.

Today's political races are more about mudslingling/campaign money and discrediting your opponent than actually telling us where they stand, unless it is a predesigned statement by their PR team to get more votes.

Are all politicians this way? No, but the majority are, and while they are important, they need to realize they serve the people and it isn't just about getting into office.

So, you're damn right I have voter apathy, and it's because of the state of politics today. It doesn't make me uneducated, a wuss, a quitter, a Non-constitutionalist or whatever, and for you to dare say that about me, is unfair labeling.

Bottom line: Show me a political election as intended by the framers of the constitution and I would feel obligated to vote, but Mudslingling and campaign contributions do not count, and that is what our modern day elections are geared towards. Until this changes, I will continue to evaluate my feeling towards voting on a yearly basis.

 

What hard decisions will you be making for us this election, Refman? That sounds naive.

And you never answered my question. I'll ask again -- if a person that you didn't like was running un-opposed, would you vote for that person? Or would you let someone else make that hard decision for you?