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Consumer Reports vs J.D. Power

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  1. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

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    Consumer Reports and J.D. Power & Associates, which one is more unbiased, reliable, and trustworthy?

    I am in a process of switching my cell phone service (currently Sprint PCS). In one of the issues of Consumer Reports some time ago, Verizon was rated the best. On the other hand, J.D. Power ranked T-Mobile the highest in overall customer satisfaction in a 2004 study.

    What's your unbiased :) opinion?
     
  2. Davidoff

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    I'm not a fan of Consumer Reports, I feel that they always pick the "Best Buy" never the best product.. I've found that if you're looking to get a OK item Consumer Reports does the job, but if you are looking for a great product they may not fit the bill.. I've had bad luck on cordless phones, stereos and the worst weedeater I have ever used because of their recommendations..

    I've never looked into JD Power before so I cant say there..
     
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  3. swilkins

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    I used Sprint and it rolled into AT&T, which is now Cingular (I think)

    I haven't had any problems.

    I guess, if I had to change it, I would pick T-Mobile, because Catherine Zeta Jones is hot.
     
  4. flamingmoe

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    I'm not saying they are biased, but maybe you should think twice before trusting those JD Power awards

    J.D. Power cozy with winners
    - David Lazarus
    Sunday, July 24, 2005
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...hive/2005/07/24/BUGVRDRDIJ1.DTL&type=business

    Take a look at almost any ad for cars or cell phones these days, and you'll see one or more awards from J.D. Power and Associates suggesting a track record of quality and reliability.

    Some promotions fairly drip with J.D. Power honors. General Motors has been running a full-page ad in newspapers across the country depicting no fewer than 16 J.D. Power awards and not a single car or truck.

    And that's just fine, financially speaking, with J.D. Power.

    For the uninitiated, J.D. Power is a Southern California market researcher that studies customer satisfaction in a wide variety of industries, from cars and cell phones to health care and utilities.

    The company funds and performs its own research, then makes its extensive data available -- for a price -- to the industries covered.

    Those industries in turn may use J.D. Power's findings in their marketing campaigns as independent proof that consumers can rely on their products and services.

    But here are a couple of things most people might not know:

    The companies evaluated by J.D. Power in fact pay the firm to use its name in their ads, and a hefty amount of cash is said to be changing hands.

    Also, companies honored by J.D. Power with top rankings routinely pay it additional sums for extra copies of its foot-high, crystal trophies.

    Jamey Power, the firm's executive vice president and son of founder James David Power, told me he's not worried about a perceived conflict arising from J.D. Power & Associates taking money from the companies it judges.

    "We have walls set up in our organization that separate the different business divisions from these issues," he said.

    But consumer advocates say it's difficult to maintain the public's trust if you enjoy a financial relationship with the firms you claim to be independently reviewing.

    "Even if the whole thing's on the up and up, there's at the very least an appearance of impropriety," said Ken McEldowney, executive director of Consumer Action in San Francisco.

    "Some consumers might wonder if J.D. Power gives awards only to companies that can pay thousands of dollars in licensing fees."

    For this reason, McEldowney said his organization forbids companies to use Consumers Action's name in marketing materials that reference the group's studies of telephone and credit card pricing.

    Consumer Reports, the granddaddy of watchdog publications, also won't let companies use its name in marketing materials.

    "We feel this would create an implication among consumers that we have a relationship with the company," said Charles Daviet, Consumer Reports' director of survey research.

    Mike Greywitt, a J.D. Power spokesman, responded that there's nothing inappropriate about licensing its name for use by others.

    "It's no different from any company that licenses its name for use on a product," he said. "Disney, for example, licenses its name. So does Coca-Cola."

    The difference, of course, is that neither Disney nor Coke presents itself to consumers as an ostensibly neutral arbiter of other companies' goods and services. J.D. Power does.

    The firm, which was acquired in March for an undisclosed price by publishing giant McGraw-Hill, is intensely tight-lipped about the fees it charges other companies.

    "That's proprietary," Greywitt insisted.

    But it's an open secret in the business world that annual licensing fees in fact cost a pretty penny, running in some cases (or so I hear) more than the price of a top-of-the-line Mercedes-Benz.

    Brandchannel.com, a marketing-related Web site, tried (and failed) in a report last year to determine the scope of J.D. Power's licensing program. It said only that licensing "generates huge fees."

    Another site, TheCarConnection.com, said in a report prior to J.D. Power's acquisition that the firm's annual licensing fee is believed "to be around $100,000."

    Jamey Power didn't dispute that the firm's licensing can be pricey.

    "We put a value on the licenses because you want to be respected," he said. "If you're not respecting yourself, it devolves into not receiving any in return."

    Greywitt put it this way: "You pay for value. When you want a luxury car, you pay for the value of the car."

    As for J.D. Power reaping additional revenue by selling trophies to award recipients, Greywitt said this is a perfectly ordinary business practice.

    "It's all part of merchandising a product," he said. "Disney merchandises products. Coca-Cola merchandises products. Everybody merchandises products."

    Along with handing out hundreds of awards, J.D. Power does hundreds of consumer surveys every year. I asked Jamey Power if a consistent theme emerged from those surveys.

    "Yes," he said. "Consumers want to be trusted. They don't want to be yanked around."

    Sounds about right..
     
  5. Uprising

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    I had Verizon wireless, and switched to Tmobile. I did this because I wanted to get the free minutes between Tmobile users (many of my friends and family are on Tmobile.
     
  6. Dr of Dunk

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    Aaaand? How do you compare the reception??? :)

    Verizon and Cingular have the most coverage to my knowledge. They also usually are considered to have the best networks - especially if roaming around Padookaville.
     

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