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[Congratulations] Jair Bolsonaro Wins Brazilian Presidency

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Oct 28, 2018.

  1. Cohete Rojo

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    Here's to all the forward-thinking political leaders of the world who look inward to their fellow countrymen for inspiration!

     
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    There is a severe over correction happening all over the world in response to the liberal lies and we're all paying for it now or soon enough.
     
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    Well we know he hates homosexuals, thinks rape victims deserve it and blames economic problems on ethnic minorities... but maybe he can decrease the violence in Brazil and help the economy without becoming a fascist dictator.
     
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    Yes, nothing more 'forward' thinking than hating LGBT people.

    I mean, let's make a list of Jair and who he is. Maybe, if Cohete is a decent person, he'll retract his statement that Jair is forward thinking and for 'all' of his countrymen...

    • Would rather his own son die than have a gay family member
    • Being gay is a lack of beating
    • Pinochet did what he had to do, should have killed more people
    • Minorities must obey or disappear
    • Thinks the country will only change through civil war, if innocents die, that's ok, it happens.
    • Said that his son is smart because he wouldn't date a black woman.
    • Wants to evict natives off of their land and also DGAF about the Amazon, which is integral to the Earth's ecosystem, ah well
    Sounds like a very forward-thinking guy that is definitely for all of the peoples of Brazil!

    That country is going to get a test of its democracy if this guy tries to live up to his words.
     
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    Are you for real? He will start killing homosexuals, minorities and leftists. Millions of poor folks will go back to even more grinding poverty and when they try to form unions or protest they will be killed.

    If Brazil was closer to the United States we would start seeing the caravans.

    On the bright side, it might be a good opportunity to invest in expensive coastal real estate in Brazil and any company sending arms, surveillance systems and riot control equipment to Brazil.
     
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    The left sucks with the economy and the right always has some homophobe insensitive like character
     
  8. Nook

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    Killing innocent people and improving the economy can be independent of one another......... having said that, no I am not in anyway or fashion a supporter of Bolsonaro and suspect it will not end well.

    It is like IPA said, you have over corrections. That happened with Chavez in Venezuela and the same with Bolsonaro. These are people that are serious about their ideas and there are grave consequences for electing them.
     
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  9. Nook

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    The Right isn't really all that good with the economy either..... and in fairness, the left has killed quite a few people too........ it is all about moderation.
     
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    Nah.... he is already talking about doubling their Supreme Court so he can make sure he has control of it. It is obvious what he is doing......... things are bad in Brazil, so the people are desperate and willing to try anything different.
     
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    Similar to the US. People were desperate enough to elect Trump.
     
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    Dictator in the making. He makes regular nut-jobs look like moderates.
     
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    Brazil has to ween itself off oil. Their economy was dependent on its offshore reserves which are expensive to drill.

    Its simple, the country's problems aren't about politics they're about economics
     
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    You're right but none of this matters to the people who lived under 12 years of democratic socialism and saw only corruption and nothing done about drugs, violence, poverty, etc... Before you judge them for their votes what do you expect to do?

    Also, I doubt many of the voters were even alive for 1964 through 1985. It would be interesting to see the # of voters under 35 in this election.
     
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    Why were Brazilians and Americans desperate? If both left parties would have asked themselves that and tried to help those desperate we and they might not be in this situation. Oh and stop the corruption. And before you say the right is corrupted too or even more yea it's true but if both are then we will just have these hard right, hard left corrections every 10 years or so.
     
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    I do not think electing Trump in the US was all about people desperate enough, a lot of it have to do with the back lash of electing an African American president and the baggage of the Clintons as well, the perfect storm.
     
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    The people think he's 'not serious' about the things he said and basically, all the rich people voted for him and all the poor people didn't, the rest abstained.

    I hate to bring up Godwin's law but this ish sounds pretty similar. This whole idea of "Well, he said these things...but he doesn't really mean it." seems to be a popular refrain around the world nowadays.

    I don't know about blaming the Brazilians though, I never did. I think it's more about how a country responds to this kind of thing than the initial action. As I said, their democracy is going to be tested with this guy (unless he's been just blowing smoke for his entire career) but their system of checks and balances is about to get a thorough test and the morality of the Brazilian people is going to be tested.

    Also, I get it about the corruption of the left party in Brazil and that people are just running away from that.

    The scariest thing about this guy is what will happen to the Amazon Rainforest. I wonder what the international response will be once he orders its wholesale destruction. I should be pretty drastic as cutting that down and destroying that would be the same as taking a knife and stabbing it through the heart of the Earth.
     
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    There is always an element of the other party failing when a radical comes into power. In the case of Brazil, the left party was corrupt and the people had enough. It should be pointed out that had the prior left candidate not been banned from running he would have won in a landslide.

    I understand where Brazilians are coming from. There is an incredibly high crime rate, the economy is not very good, there are serious ethnic tensions in Brazil. So, many people get sick of the status quo and don't like how things are and will listen to someone that appears confident and strong and will do things differently....... history shows that almost never works out well, but the status quo isn't great either.

    The reality is a lot of people will tolerate discrimination against smaller groups, and even oppression against other groups as long as the economy is solid and they feel safe. Look at South Africa....... Nazi Germany..... Soviet Union.
     
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    Maybe we (humanity) deserve it.
     
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