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Condi for Pres?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sishir Chang, Mar 13, 2005.

  1. Sishir Chang

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    With Condi making so many denials that she'll run for Pres I'm wondering if there's something cooking.

    Anyone know how the rumor got started about Rice running for Pres? Is this just something from the dark reaches of the Internet or have there some Repub bigwigs throwing her name out there?
     
  2. Invisible Fan

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    She just said that she won't run on Face the Nation and that she would rather return to academic life.
     
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    It's against her nature to run for office. She is an academic. However, she might be the only thing standing in Hillary Clinton's way in 2008, so she might get forced to run.
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    What about McCain?
     
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    I am not sure a black person could run as a republican. Even though this is 2005 some voters in the south might not not vote for her just because she is black. Maybe in 2008 things might change but I wouldn't count on it.
     
  7. HayesStreet

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    I think this is hogwash. Republicans would fumble over themselves to elect Colin Powell.
     
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    complete and utter bull****.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    Yes, nothing like a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action Republican presidential candidate. That would sit very well with the Republican core of white southern evangelicals. I have a feeling he would really set them afire!
     
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    You really think white men in the south would vote for Rice over a moderate Dem?
     
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    And they would vote for Hillary instead???

    I think Hayes is right here. Repubs would wet themselves for the chance to vote for Powel.
     
  12. HayesStreet

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    Who would they run to, or vote for? Sarcasm aside(...oh wait - that would leave you nothing to say), Colin could pull from the middle, making a Bush style push from the far right unnecessary.
     
  13. SamFisher

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    Powell wouldn't make it through the nomination process my friend. Hell, McCain was too moderate for South Carolina and he wasn't even pro-choice. Maybe Michael Powell would though since he fines TV stations for showing people's naughty parts and for saying bad words.

    But seriously, wake me up when you see the Republicans put up a pro-choice Presidential candidate. As long as abortion is legal - it's not going to happen. Ever.


    Uh, the triumphalist Republican party of today doesn't need the middle. That's what Rove said - and he was right, at least last year.
     
  14. HayesStreet

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    I don't think they'll have a candidate that, like him or not, is as unique as dubya next election. So what worked last election won't work in the next one, IMO.
     
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    Why not? What is easier - 1. trying to fight for the middle without alienating your base; or 2.increase your base?

    The Republican party opted for 2 - with great success. Why would they do something differently? And why the hell do you think a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action candidate has a chance in hell of surviving a Republican party primary?
     
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    I already answered that above - because they don't have another candidate as unique a dubya.

    Look, its not like I'm coming out of left field talking about Powell and the Presidency, lol. The VP spot was his for the taking in 2000, and the Presidency would be if he ran in 2008. Why? Because he's considered honest, morally upright, hard working pull yourself up from the bootstraps type, and he's got the bonafides (as they said in O Brother Where Art Thou) - he's a military icon.
     
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    You may be right, but I really hope you're wrong, Sam. I'm not going to try to understand the GOP mind. I may not be as cynical as you are... somehow lots of smart and relatively moderate people voted Bush last time. I would think they might have some influence in moving away from the looniness that was 2004.

    In the end, they'll put forward the one they think will win.
     
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    Hayes, there is no chance that a pro-choice, pro-affirmative action candidate (let alone one who was just publicly humiliated by his co-workers for the last 3 years) will be the nominee of the Republican party in 2008. By no, I mean zero point zero.

    Perhaps you weren't coming out of left field - 8 years ago But the dynamics have changed. And not in favor of your position.

    I'm suprised you'd think people would support him actually given that his apparent disinterest in not removing dictators who commit genocide.
     
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    In South Carolina's primaries, at least, the voters don't like a candidate with the hint of an interracial child. A black candidate is different though. The voters in SC's primaries aren't racist or anything. Speaking at Bob Jones University will also earn you some points, black or white.
     
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    absolutely. and i reject the proposition that the south is less tolerant than the rest of the country. up here in the liberal north east there's plenty of overt racial animus.
     

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