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[completely different] Dream's contract dispute in 92 and trade in 99

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Dec 8, 2010.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    You know it's a different era in Clutch fans aka Clutch city.net when fans of another player try to bring past Rockets disputes as some weird justification for their beliefs.

    However in their attempt to justify themselves, they have caused mass confusion for the newer fans.

    there are two incidents:

    Dream's contract dispute in 92

    Thomas makes Hakeem a Rocket until '99/Four-year, $25.4 million extension puts lid on turbulent era
    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=1993_1117400


    and

    Dream's trade to the Raptors and refusal of a contract extension with the Rockets



    End of a Dream in Houston / Center of Rockets' universe to leave after 17 seasons
    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2001_3323763

    These two situations are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

    I believe many members on this board can tell you why Hakeem left the Rockets.
     
  2. htownrox1

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    He dropped it.
     
  3. tinman

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    situation #1.
    Happy ending, because Dream wanted more money and he got it.


    Less than six months after Hakeem Olajuwon hurled insults like "coward" and "fool" at Charlie Thomas, the Rockets' owner finally threw something back at Olajuwon that speaks louder than words.

    Money.

    On a day that proved even the most strained relationships can be salvaged, Olajuwon on Monday signed a four-year contract extension worth $25.4 million. He is under contract with the Rockets until 1999.

    Moments after the announcement, Olajuwon and Thomas wore smiles and shared a hug.


    situation #2.

    Olajuwon, 38, turned down an offer from the Rockets worth a guaranteed $13 million over three seasons after the Rockets guaranteed the final $3 million Tuesday.

    Instead, Olajuwon asked the Rockets to make a sign-and-trade arrangement with the Raptors that will be worth close to $17 million over three seasons.

    After coming back from an asthmalike breathing condition in the 1999-2000 season, Olajuwon missed stretches of last season with a swollen right knee and with a blood condition in his right leg. But the more difficult time for Olajuwon might have been the first three months of the season when he believed he was not used enough and requested a trade.
     
  4. tinman

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    the 92 situation was ugly, but simply resolved. it was about money.


    the 01 situation was different because he was on his last legs after playing 17 YEARS and that the organization was giving more time some dudes name Steve Francis and Cutino Mobley who tend to dominate the ball.
     
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    Wow, I didn't realize all that was over $4 million.. Why didn't he just accept Houston's offer and stay in Houston? Was it really about the money?
     
  6. heypartner

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    Can anyone find video of the Knicks game in 2001, when Hakeem exploded back to the scene, and played inspiringly for a few weeks before the asthma.

    I was at that game I recall the entire stadium going insane.

    I'd also like to see the ClutchCity.net thread about that game. unfortunately, Hakeem's trade announcement killed the original clutchcity.net db, I believe. I don't think there are any cc.net threads that survived the Hakeem departure.
     
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    It's 2010.
     
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    I personally think it was about Rudy giving the keys of the offense to Steve Francis

    and this..

    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/archive.mpl?id=2001_3288918
    Center Kelvin Cato has been the player the Rockets point to most who needs to rise up and help fill the void. After all, he was anointed as Olajuwon's heir apparent when the Rockets signed Cato to a six-year, $42 million contract that began this season.
    :(
     
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    No, he had already decided. They had already pissed him off. The Knicks game is when he showed he still had it, and that's when they rethought about signing him, but it was too late, Hakeem felt like he had been insulted by the Rockets telling him when to retire.

    Rockets wanted Hakeem to do a retirement tour, in each city. Or sign for one more year and do one, can't quite remember.
     
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    thanks tinman... i never knew the whole story of what happened between the Rockets and Hakeem in 2001.
     
  11. htownrox1

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    Yeah I remember Cato supposedly was going to be the new big stuff on the court and they were high on him.. How dumb.. It just sucks that it had to end with Hakeem going to toronto. Eghh toronto..
     
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    And the youngins took over the lockerroom, too. Remember Barkley's article a week or so before his quad injury.
     
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    Ohhh, well that makes sense too.. Idk I guess Hakeem had a reason to be pissed..
     
  14. tinman

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    you know I'm actually pretty happy that others brought up this topic.
    the good ole days of clutchfans! :) Clutch has been keeping it real for along time!

    http://www.clutchfans.net/news/467/hakeem_wants_new_role/

    Hakeem Wants New Role

    MONDAY, DECEMBER 4, 2000 10:40 PM CST
    By Clutch
    Copyright 2000 ClutchFans.net

    Heading in to Tuesday's game with Dallas, the Rockets now have more to deal with than just the Mavericks. The Houston Chronicle reports Hakeem Olajuwon is not happy with his diminished role on the team. "If the Rockets won't use my talent this year, somebody else is going to use it next year," stated Olajuwon, clearly sending a signal that he has no plans on retiring after this year. Age isn't a factor says Dream. "There's a lot of excuses about maybe I'm old, but that's not true. I'm fit. I'm healthy. The other teams know that because they double- and triple-team me when I get the ball." Hakeem said he enjoys the Rockets new up-tempo style, but they shouldn't forget the post. "That's not winning basketball. If you don't use it this year, then that's motivation for next year to get someone (else) to use it." There have been quiet rumblings here at clutchcity.net since early in the season that Hakeem isn't happy with his role at all on the team, and at one point considered a play-me-or-trade-me stance... this kind of brings those rumors in to focus.
     
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    dude Clutch was THE MAN back in the day!!

    check it out!

    Hakeem mentions Lakers, Heat as possibilities next season

    TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2000 12:41 PM CST
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    Got to love Dream. He's gone from "want to finish my career in Houston" to "not sure if I will retire this season" to "I want to play beyond this season" to "I may play elsewhere" and now to flat out mentioning other teams as possibilities. In the Vancouver Sun article Olajuwon Rejuvenated, Hakeem said he wouldn't play in Vancouver next season, but did mention the Heat and Lakers as possibilities. "I'll team with the Lakers and Shaq," said Dream with a big smile. "That would be good."

    :eek:


    dude check this one out!!!

    Olajuwon contemplates joining Jordan and Barkley in Washington
    FRIDAY, JUNE 8, 2001 8:32 AM CST
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    Could we see a Dream Team geriatric set on the floor next season? ESPN is reporting that Hakeem Olajuwon may be interested in playing with Washington next season if Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley make a comeback. "Who wouldn't?" was the response when he was asked if he would want to play with Jordan. There has been much speculation surrounding the Dream since he announced he wouldn't give Houston a hometown discount if he returned next season. ClutchCity.net reported 6 weeks ago that Jordan had contacted Olajuwon about possibly joining he and Barkley in Washington next season. One thing is for sure, it is shaping up to be a turbulent offseason for the Rocks. Stay tuned...
     
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    Wow, I've heard about the second rumor throughout the years, but not the first.. That would have been crazy!! In a way, I'm kinda glad he went to Toronto instead of any other city. Although I wish he could have stayed in Houston, and least it wasn't L.A. or one of our rivals, that would have stung.

    Thanks tinman for clearing things up with past history.
     
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    that would have sucked if he went to the Lakers, then they would have Horry and Dream. Who knows, maybe Dream playing 15 minutes a game as Shaq's backup, he would have stayed for the ride.
     
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    Thx. So did Toronto buy out the rest of the contract? Hakeem got all 3 yrs worth of money even after retirement right?
     
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    this was what I thought put clutchfans and it's member in the spotlight

    Hakeem was the talk of the day
    MONDAY, JULY 16, 2001 11:26 AM CST
    By Clutch
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    Hakeem was the talk of the day
    A radio report Monday evening stated that Dan Fegan, the agent for both Hakeem Olajuwon and Shandon Anderson, was currently in negotiations with Rockets' VP Carroll Dawson in regards to a new contract for the Dream. Jonathan Feigen of the Chronicle also writes that Olajuwon is still keeping his options open, but wants the Rockets to stay intact. Hakeem sounds more and more like a guy willing to leave, saying, "You know, at the beginning of the season, I heard over and over and over and over how I don't fit in that situation. They know their situation. The ball is in their court. And that's why I have an agent." However, the biggest scoop of the day may have come this morning on the BBS as the poster rockHEAD spotted Dream at a grocery store and asked him point blank if Dream would give (Houston) another year. "I'm going to work another year, but it won't be here," said Hakeem. The BBS thread, which actually includes photos of Dream at the store, has sparked a wildfire of conversation. Teams can officially make deals and sign free agents this Wednesday, the 18th.


    Dream told a member of Clutchfans first!!!! :eek:
     
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    $25 million was a steal for the Rockets.
     

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