I was just thinking about if the clippers make the deal with the magic sending Maggette, #5, and #10 for #3 and came to the conclusion that the clippers would have a better starting lineup then the rockets. Clippers Lineups: C:Olowokandi PF:Fizer(#5) SF:Odom SG:Maggette PG ooling or Crawford(#10) Center Comparison-Olowokandi in my opinion has a greater upside then Cato. Forward Comparison-Their forwards are MUCH MUCH better then any forward lineup we would have(Moiso/Williams or Thomas/Johnson). Guard Comparison-Maggette has enough talent to be one of the top 5 shooting guards in the league and Anderson well...doesn't. Dooling or Crawford are both loaded with potential. Plus they have some quality role players in in Nesby, Hudson, Skinner and Piatkowski and they have a lot of cap room. Could the Clippers be better then then rockets next season? [This message has been edited by dice7_11 (edited June 28, 2000).]
Absolutely not. Cato is better than Kandi. Fizer won't drop to #5, IMO Odom is better than our SF Our backcourt is one of the best in the NBA, so I'm pretty sure they'd be a lot better than a rookie and a 2nd year player. ------------------ "Go to hell Costas"-Dave Nelson after sweeping the ABSCAs on NewsRadio visit www.swirve.com
Let's compare the Clippers to the Lakers: The Lakers have the edge at center and shooting guard... But the Clips would be better at point guard, power forward, and small forward, possibly even have a better bench. The Clippers could win the title next year! ------------------ Too-Rye-Aye!
Orlando is the team to worry about. If a team could make a major leap next year. It's that team right there. Everything is falling into place for them. ------------------ humble, but hungry.
there was a reason why Olowokandi was picked first and Cato was picked 16, he has a much greater upside then cato. i'd rather have kandi over cato and i guarentee you almost every GM in the league would rather have kandi over cato too. fizer would drop to #5 because the magic would take miles at #3 and the bulls wouldn't want fizer because they have brand so they take mihm. crawford and maggette i would say has just as much potential as francis and anderson.
Did I just read that correctly? You are also forgetting Mobley. Oh wait, I forgot, Mobley sucks. Francis was the number three pick. Dooling may be picked anywhere from 10-21. Magette was the number 13 pick, and may be with his 3rd team in two years. Anderson, while a 2nd round pick, has played very solid basketball for at least four straight years now. But Dooling and Magette have more potential than Francis (Rookie of the Year) and Anderson. Using your logic, since Cato was a lower pick than Kandi, he has more potential. ------------------ "Go to hell Costas"-Dave Nelson after sweeping the ABSCAs on NewsRadio visit www.swirve.com
my point about cato being picked at #16 is that he's a center being picked at #16 and in this day in age if your a center with even an ounce of talent you'll be picked in the top 10 and he was picked #16. as i said before maggette has enough talent to be one of the top 5 shooting guards in the league. maggette will be an all-star. as far as dooling, he's an athletic freak dare i say more athletic then francis, dooling is an explosive point guard with high flying dunks that can stroke it from the outside, sound familiar. right now the rockets back court is a more productive backcourt but as far as talent goes maggette and dooling have just as much talent. [This message has been edited by dice7_11 (edited June 29, 2000).]
Sorry . . . no Dice Potential isn't sh*t until it is realiized Maggette has had 2 years and has shown nothing Shandon was the X-Factor that took Utah to the NBA Championships and the MORE EXPLOSIVE than Francis . .. well . . . I guess that is why everyone is Drooling over him at the Top 5 pick. I'm sorry I did not see any Guard in the draft that is Francis worthy. Rocket River I'll take the on in the hand for a 1000 Alex ------------------
i'm not saying the clippers will be a better team or will have more wins then the rockets, i'm just saying that starting lineup looks damn good. and as far as talent goes the clippers starting lineup is more talented then the rockets starting lineup in my opinion. your probably right though they probably will underacheive like always and the rockets probably will overacheive like they did last season.
Just wanted to update the lineups Clippers Lineups: C:Olowokandi PF:Odom SF:Miles SG:Maggette PG ooling Rockets Lineup C:Collier PF:Thomas SF:Williams SG:Anderson PG:Francis Now can you seriously tell me that the rockets have a better starting lineup then the Clipper??? [This message has been edited by dice7_11 (edited June 28, 2000).]
How about Cato at Center. Miles will not start, and will probably self-destruct ala Leon Smith playing with no mentor. We'll talk after next season. And yes, I still think we have a better lineup. Odom at the 4 won't work. ------------------ "Go to hell Costas"-Dave Nelson after sweeping the ABSCAs on NewsRadio visit www.swirve.com
Diceman, correction on the rockets linup: C: CATO PF: Collier (i believe) SF: Williams or Anderson (whichever works better) SG: Anderson or Mobley PG: WHO ELSE BTW: Francis will tear Dooling to shreds this year, so dont even bother talking about how they are equal in talent! ------------------
One more thing: In your lineups i see that you have odom at the power forward....he maybe more talented in different areas than most PF's but i guarantee you that he would be outpowered by practically any PF in the NBA. You cant just throw out a lineup on the floor of extremely talented players and expect them to produce. You got to understand that their talent can only make them better than the opposing player if they are at the position where they can utilize it the most...otherwise it is useless. Anyway thats just my opinion. ------------------
but you have to admit from top to bottom the clippers lineup is a more talented lineup even with cato in the rockets lineup. as i said before they probably won't have a better record then the rockets but they certainly have enough talent to have a better record then the rockets.
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Dice....man.....what are you saying??? First of all, what does it matter where they were drafted? Sure, you could have made this argument after draft day the year these guys were picked, but not now. As stated, potential isn't $hit until it is realized. Also take into consideration WHO PICKED KANDI! It was the Clippers for God's sake! Kandi gets picked number 1....what has he done? Nothing. He bulked up a bit, but has not improved at all. He is the same player he was at Pacific Univ. with the same tired "jump" hook. Cato is a much more athletic center and is a tremendously better shot blocker. Rebounding may be the only edge Kandi has on Cato. Cato runs the floor better, is more aggressive (when he wants to be, but neither player has consistent desire), finishes better, and is all around better defensively. I cannot see how one could think Kandi has a good upside. He is destined to be another failed Clipper lotto pick. ------------------ HOOP-T ------------------
Don't get me started on Maggette....that kid should have stayed at Duke and learned how to play the game of basketball. He is a good athlete and can dunk like a mad man, but they ain't playin' horse in the NBA, and you only get to compete in a dunk contest once a year. ------------------ HOOP-T ------------------
Guys come on now, there's a difference between being just an optimistic rocket fan and being a rocket fan in denial. Obviously Rudy isn't very pleased with Cato's offseason or why would he draft Collier? Olowokandi can be a go to guy in the post he has a very nice post up game and has nice footwork that will only get better with Abdul-Jabbar working with him in the offseason, now do you honestly think that Kelvin Cato will ever be a go to guy in the post?
