Link Difficult to post it here because its a board. Couple of players stand out: Babbit aswell as Booker are freaks, Whiteside with 12 reps on the 185 is stronger than his frame suggests. Favors athleticism, speed (faster than most of the guards), and has a good vertical (no step), IMO he'll be able to play center no doubt in the NBA. Favors-Lopez looks like an exciting bigman combo, ring a bell for anyone? To bad Paul George's numbers aren't on there, I was wondering how he would do, looks like a freakshow.
Terrico White is a huge sleeper, with nearly identical to John Wall type athleticism... 20 years old, 40 inch vertical, 6-4 with a 6-9 wingspan. Bigger hands than Wall and nearly as fast. Not to mention he is already in absurdly great shape... Second round stash Daryl!!!
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Babbitt's draftexpress report says he's not much of an athlete. Can't tell it here. I've been watching this kid for awhile. 50/40/90 - - key numbers, and he created a lot of those shots for himself. Not to mention his rebounding numbers are very, very good. If rebounding is a good part of defense, then his slow feet defensively don't bother me as much. It would not surprise me at all if Morey took Babbitt or Hayword while everybody else is taking power forwards. I would really like Booker in the 2nd round. Booker is a Landry finisher.
this is what i gathered: early lotto: favors and johnson tested MUCH better than turner and cousins. turner, was just about average in all drills, while cousins was below average. favors size and athleticism should make him the #2 pick at the moment. late lotto bigs: orton tested poorly on size and now we see, poorly on athleticism. anyone thinking of drafting this guy in the lottery should be shot. aldrich was pretty average, and over shadowed by udoh and davis... both of whom probably passed him on the big board. monroe was below average on most drills and probably has fallen behind all of these bigs except for orton. late lotto wings: aminu, hayward, henry, and anderson were all pretty average with the exception of aminu and anderson testing as 2 of the strongest guys in the draft. a big story was babbit testing above average nearly everywhere and probably raising his stock above everyone here except for aminu. made a name for himself: amron johnson (PG) has a 38" vert and a max reach that compares to some forwards (monroe for example). he also had 18 reps when the most at the camp was 23. pound for pound the strongest guy in the draft, and among the most athletic. terrico white proved to be one of the most athletic guys in the draft and probably moved his stock from late first/early second, up to mid-late first. notables: patterson and whiteside tested about average on all drills. whiteside's max reach looked good, but then again he's got a monster wingspan to cover up for his lack of vertical. patterson put up 18 reps proving to be among the strongest in the draft. they're both probably still mid-late first rounders. alabi tested great on measurements, but below average on athleticism which isnt surprising considering his size.
I think it will be: 1.Wall 2.Favors 3.Turner 4.Johnson 5.Cousins (not even sure he might slip more depending on workouts) And when its all said and done, 7 years from now Favors will be the most valuable asset of the draft. Don't get me wrong, John Wall will probably be the better player/leader etc, but big men like Favors don't come along to often. Johnson will be a nice 2nd-3rd fiddle and Turner IMO can turn into a #1 option.
Smoothie, I think Alabi had just hurt his ankle not too long ago and that probably didn't help him much with the drills.
Players stock won't rise and fall that bad because of this. It's more about the team workouts IMO. Must have been a lonely moment for him, watching those guys go 17-18, then seeing he couldn't even lift it..
Yeah, he is really really testing well. Combined with dominant college statistics, and he could be a solid pick-up. I'd still question his general "speed" and lateral quickness, but much more athletic than one would think. He's not a big, which is more in need for the Rockets, and somewhat duplicative with Chase, who put up similar stats his junior year at Arizona, but both seem to be decent enough shooters, and athletic enough, to play either the 2 or the 3...though Chase, and if I had to guess, Babbitt as well (from videos I've seen), need to improve overall NBA level ball-handling. Moreover, with the two of them, you could package one in a sign and trade for Bosh.
I don't think Chase's handling will improve much more than it is now, but it's already pretty decent. If Chase works on defense, he could be a starter for us. fredv, The reason I mentioned that his stock is rising is because he's not a surefire lotto pick, but he's helping himself with these measurements. Combine that with good workouts and he could be a lotto pick. Where he ends up is all up to him at this point.
http://www.clipsnation.com/2010/5/28/1492003/this-years-combine-darling-nevada Luke Babbitt This year's combine darling? Nevada forward Luke Babbitt. Babbitt measured around 6-9 in shoes with an 8-9 standing reach. That doesn't blow you away. However, he had an impressive 6-11 wingspan and essentially measures up with Griffin (6-10 in shoes, an 8-9 standing reach and a 6-11 wingspan). But Griffin is way more athletic, you say? Not according to the combine numbers. Babbitt had a 37.5-inch max vertical, a 3.2-second sprint and an impressive 10.98 lane agility score. Griffin's numbers were 35.5, 3.28 and 10.95, respectively. Griffin clearly had the strength advantage, benching a 185-pound bar 22 times to Babbitt's 15. But 15 reps is still an impressive number. What about production on the court? Griffin clearly had Babbitt bested here. Griffin averaged 22.2 ppg and 14.1 rpg in 32 mpg his sophomore season. Babbitt averaged 21.9 ppg and 9.0 rpg in 37 mpg as a sophomore. However, Babbitt does bring two things to the table that Griffin doesn't -- 3-point shooting and ball-handling ability. Babbitt shot a blazing 43 percent from beyond the arc this past season and showed excellent ball-handling skills for a big man in the combine. Of course, Babbitt isn't as good of a prospect as Griffin was. That's why we've had Babbitt No. 12 on our mock draft for two straight weeks. However, we might have him too low. Based on what I'm hearing, Babbitt could be in play as high as No. 9 to the Jazz. ESPN Insider
Very nice analysis Smoothie. The only thing I'm worried about though is Luke Babbit becoming the next Alexander as the "workout warrior" with his lane agility drill at 10.98 being well below the average of 11.6 (in a big man heavy draft, no less). I don't really know if lack of agility is a big thing to you guys, but to me its the one thing which prevented Joe Alexander from becoming a star in this league. Although he had no handles, Alexander had a working jumpshot and can dunk from all over the place. However his lack of agility made him putty in the hands of his defender, he couldn't create the space he needed to get his shot off. Of course Babbit has better handles than Alexander so maybe he can do more...but honestly I doubt it. I guess we'll see. For sure though he's gonna be a liability on D. With any luck, Bird will fall for him during their workout and draft him as his white replacement for Granger. He can pair him up with the T-man as the new and improved Mchale and Bird combo :grin:
I find it funny that ESPN writer called his lane agility drill "impressive" when it was well below the average. Writer bias, anyone? Still, it is weird that Babbit scored higher than Griffin. Maybe Griffin didn't do his best during his drill? Or maybe both of them didn't do their best. Or maybe I'm putting too much importance in the drill results? Considering the fact that NBAdraft net has concerns about his "athleticism" though, I'm guessing his lack of agility is pretty spot on. Lack of agility's got to be the reason why Babbit has a rep for being unathletic when he tested so well: "He lacks lateral quickness, and will be an eye-opening target for any quick and athletic forward who is matched up with him ... Not the greatest or quickest athlete, which could be another obstacle for him, as he won't be able to create as much space for himself in the NBA the way he did in college " "For all the craftiness, his physical shortcomings are still fairly exposed … He lacks the explosiveness and athleticism to matchup with the PF position, and his mediocre lateral quickness and first step will give him fits defending wing players, or trying to beat them off the dribble"
The NBA needs to revamp the combine test. They should be testing lane agility and the 3/4 sprint, while the players are dribbling to simulate an actual basketball game scenario. It's not the best case, but it's still better than running straight without a ball. The bench press should be removed. Players with a short wingspan and short reach do the best on this test. It's a better of indicator of NBA failure than success. As for leaping ability, they need to measure explosiveness and height. How fast is the player accelerating on his jump? Draftees that have high explosiveness like DHoward and Amare would excel on such a test, but high leapers without the explosiveness would fail. As for the caliper bodyfat test, they should replace it with a Bodpod, air displacement bodyfat analysis in the morning. There would be less variability in the bodyfat% from player to player. Some players seem to have measurements that too high or too low by a few percentage points.
