College Realignment: Texas to Big 10 or Pac-10?

rimrocker · Feb 12, 2010

Lots of smoke out there...

Texas reportedly talks with Big Ten
By Adam Rittenberg
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/print?id=19529

I swear I didn't plan this.

It's pure coincidence that on the day I fill in for the Big 12 blog, a report is published about Texas engaging in preliminary discussions with the Big Ten about joining the conference. A source with Big Ten ties tells the Lawrence Journal-World that the Big Ten and Texas have had "preliminary exchanges."

"People will deny that, but it's accurate," the source said.

Until now, the Texas-to-the-Big-Ten talk had been purely speculation. Ever since the Big Ten announced in December that it will actively explore the possibility of expansion, a lot of junk has been thrown out, particularly the recent bogus rumors about Pitt. But this is the first legitimate news outlet to report discussions between the Big Ten and an institution.

There are numerous reasons why Texas would be a great addition to the Big Ten (or any league, for that matter). But this ultimately will come down to Texas' willingness to leave the Big 12, a league where it has flourished.

What happens to the Texas A&M and Oklahoma rivalries? Will the increased revenue from the Big Ten's TV deal offset increased travel costs Texas will face by being an outlier in the Big Ten? Would Texas only join as part of a package deal with A&M or Oklahoma?

The Big 12 certainly doesn't want to lose Texas, and I'd expect the league to put up a strong fight if these talks get more serious.
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Pac-10 "very seriously" looking at expansion

By Bud Withers
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cg...on_id=2002420896&slug=withers10&date=20100209

Times college football reporter

In a recent conversation with the San Jose Mercury News, Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott weighed in on the subject of expanding the conference.

"We're looking at it very seriously," he said.

A lot more seriously, apparently, than even last summer, when Scott had a 90-minute sit-down with several West Coast writers in Los Angeles. His response to the question that day was mild enough that I didn't even mention it in the next day's piece.

However you want to frame the possibility of league expansion, there's no doubt the heat is being turned up on the topic. Scott said Tuesday on a conference call with Pac-10 writers that the discourse will become heavy in "the next 6 to 12 months."

The league's TV contracts with ABC, Fox and ESPN run through 2012. But new deals will be formulated in the next 18 months or so, and as Scott said in his best marketing-whiz jargon, "There's a value proposition associated with (expansion). It makes sense that if you're going to do it, do it when you can monetize it."

In other words, you tell the networks you now have the Denver market as well as the West Coast.

Two other factors that have the Pac-10 taking a long look at expansion: The Big Ten is on the make, having announced it is soliciting new members â€” possibly beyond a total of 12. And Scott just hired as his right-hand man Kevin Weiberg, ex-Big 12 commissioner and a former deputy to Big Ten commish Jim Delany.

I asked Weiberg on Tuesday if he expects the Big Ten to expand, which some see as the first domino in a considerable sequence.

"I do know Jim (Delany) well enough to know that when he takes a serious look at something," Weiberg said, "there's a good probability some action will come from it."

It's unknown how far the Pac-10 may already be down the expansion road.

The Pac-10 as we know it is 32 years old, one of the oldest leagues in the nation, partly because its presidents have been unbending on academic standards regarding expansion. So now, an intriguing dynamic will be how that might mesh with Scott's acumen and aggressiveness in marketing.

This isn't the stuff of fan message boards â€” you know, let's add Fresno State and Boise State because they have good football programs. It's complicated, with academic, geographic, demographic, philosophical and emotional issues figuring in.

Forget adding California state schools or Boise State. If the Pac-10 presidents stay consistent, they don't believe those are an academic match. Brigham Young? Historically, the presidents haven't wanted the religious linkage.

The two obvious choices are Colorado and Utah. But back about the time Colorado hooked up with the Big 12 in the mid '90s, a dance between Colorado and the Pac-10 ended with a terse statement that the school was happy staying put.

That may have changed. But is it more profitable for Colorado to be in the Big 12 or the Pac-10, which hasn't put a second football team into a BCS bowl since 2002?

A well-placed source on the college landscape says that a bit before Scott came to the Pac-10, the league had an analysis done of expansion possibilities and concluded that a Colorado-Utah addition didn't really do all that much. And that realistically, nothing short of Texas would.

The Longhorns, you may recall, were one of the Pac-10 quarries (unsuccessfully) a couple of decades ago, when conference expansion was rampant. If Delany, 61, constructs his Heartland super-conference as his legacy to the Big Ten, Texas â€” however improbable as an addition to the Pac-10 â€” might be Scott's only explosive reply available.

There are other pregnant considerations. Twelve teams means a championship football game, which means divisions, which always makes Northwest schools blanch. Anything that would distance them from Los Angeles is troublesome. But can't you have geographic divisions without mandating that each school has to play everybody in its division?

This is Larry Scott's new world. The Southeastern Conference is the envy of college athletics with its $3 billion hookup with CBS and ESPN, and the Big Ten is building empires. Clearly, the new guy, and his new guy, have a lot to think about.
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With rumors about the Big Ten looking at Mizzou, and maybe even Nebraska, and Colorado being looked at for the Pac-10, would Texas strike first to make sure they had a good out from a crumbling Big 12?

I wouldn't mind seeing Texas to the Pac-10, but the Big 10 seems way too odd.

SuperBeeKay · Feb 12, 2010

So I can understand Big10, but how are we in the PAc10's region? Pacific 10.. really?

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