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COINTELPRO: The FBI's War Against Black America

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This will hopefully help people of other races on this site understand black history a little more. There is a reason that African Americans in there early 50’s and above really look at this country with a different lens this the younger generation and the “majority”. I already knew the majority of this stuff because my grandfather would talk to and educate me on these matters as a young child. If you ever wanted to know why blacks are so critical of our government & its history, this may help you out little. These videos I think are a good history lesson for everybody, so we can all just keep it real here. Even though, blacks can be critical sometimes of this country I believe blacks have earned that right to be. Even with all the negatives and its racial history which still exist(including media propaganda) consciously or unconsciously from all races, there is no other country blacks would rather be…Blacks loved this country when the country didn’t love us, not just by talk, but also by fighting for it. Even when we could not vote, go to school with, work with, work with, eat with whites, ride in front of the bus, get business loans, drink out the same water fountain, or just march in peace.
I didn’t make this thread because of obamas pastor, but I did think about him when I decided to post this. I noticed Wright comments didn’t really faze too many blacks, because we do indeed believe that governments have created diseases for chemical, and biological warfare. Blacks do believe that there are a lot of high ranking public officials that are KKK to in different offices around this till today. I know white people get on the offensive when they here people like Farrakhan say things about white people, but blacks understand that he is not talking to all whites. He is talking directly to the rich white closet racist that run this country and control things. I can only hope people will look at these videos with an open mind and to not just criticize, but to try to understand where the mind sets of blacks & especially older blacks come from when it obtains to racism.

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#1 rocket3forlife2, Apr 26, 2008

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quit feeling sorry for yourself and live your life. This isn't the 1950s

TIA

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This thread should be locked, this is just horrible.

Open racism is not acceptable against whites, just like it is not against blacks.

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Report: Race & Ethnicity In America: Turning A Blind Eye To Injustice
12/10/2007 - On December 10, 2007, the ACLU released a comprehensive analysis of the pervasive, institutionalized, systemic and structural racism in America. The report, Race & Ethnicity in America: Turning a Blind Eye to Injustice, is a response to the U.S. report to the United Nations' Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) released earlier this year. The U.S. report, which the ACLU called a “whitewash,” swept under the rug the dramatic effects of widespread racial and ethnic discrimination in this country, and fails to honestly assess the ways in which racial and ethnic discrimination and inequality persist.

The summary section of the ACLU report:

RACE & ETHNICITY IN AMERICA: Turning A Blind Eye To Injustice
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
<b>Racial and ethnic discrimination and inequality remain ongoing and pervasive in the United States, and the U.S. government has not done enough to address these important problems.</b> Hurricane Katrina exposed to the world many of America’s grave, persistent economic and social disparities, and their impact on African-American and other minority communities. <b>U.S. policies and practices at the federal, state and local level continue to disproportionately burden the most vulnerable groups in society: racial and ethnic minorities, immigrants and non-citizens, low-wage workers, women, children, and the accused.</b>

Minorities are unfairly victimized by racial profiling, a practice law enforcement uses that is based on race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or perceived immigration status. Authorities investigate, stop, frisk, search, or use force against individuals based on subjective, personal characteristics, rather than on concrete evidence of unlawful behavior. People of color are profiled while they drive, shop, pray, stand on the sidewalk waiting for work, or travel on airplanes, trains, and buses. While it has most frequently been associated with African-Americans and Latinos, racial and ethnic profiling continues to have a devastating impact on Asians, Native Americans and, increasingly after 9/11, Arabs, Muslims, and South Asians. According to recent government data concerning the profiling of drivers, while Hispanic, black, and white drivers were stopped by the police about as often, Hispanic drivers or their vehicles were searched 8.8% of the time, black drivers 9.5% of the time, and white drivers only 3.6% of the time.

Immigrants have become the targets of frequent racially discriminatory acts and statements, as well as a governmental crackdown that including workplace raids. Cities and towns across the country have enacted ordinances to penalize those who offer immigrants employment or accommodation and, in some cases, to prohibit the speaking of languages other than English at work. Immigrant workers of color are particularly vulnerable. Most of the industries that employ immigrant workers pay low wages, maintain dangerous working conditions, and frequently violate labor, environmental, and anti-discrimination laws. In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court’s Hoffman Plastic decision, undocumented workers have lost antidiscrimination protection, available remedies when injured or killed on the job, overtime pay, workers’ compensation, family and medical leave, and other fundamental safeguards. Low-wage South Asian and Muslim workers are particularly vulnerable, as they face anti-immigrant hostility, employment abuse, and post-9/11-related discrimination.

Further compromising their status, the government does not provide non-citizens the right to counsel in immigration proceedings, with the large majority of immigrants having to challenge their immigration detention and deportation pro se. Even if an immigrant has access to counsel, recent legislative actions and court decisions have sharply limited their right to challenge the basis for their detention in the courts, and have created a second class system of justice for non-citizens, especially those held in the so called “War on Terror.”

Women of color face overlapping forms of racial and gender-based discrimination and structural inequalities. Although the CERD Committee requires States Parties to report in detail “factors affecting and difficulties experienced in ensuring for women the equal enjoyment, free from racial discrimination, of rights under the Convention,” social conditions and government policies disproportionately burden minority women of color, who continue to face unequal treatment in the educational, employment and criminal justice systems. Female victims of domestic violence remain unprotected against discrimination in housing and employment; lowwage migrant women workers are discriminated against and economically and sexually exploited; and female domestic workers are sometimes held in indentured servitude. Moreover, domestic and agricultural laborers — most of whom are migrants and racial or ethnic minorities — are not afforded many basic worker protections under either the National Labor Relations Act or under other federal and state labor laws.

Even children’s rights are not sacrosanct. The U.S. government continues to detain disproportionate numbers of children of color in juvenile detention and to rely on incarceration as a means of addressing children’s social, mental or behavioral issues. In 2005, UNICEF estimated that one million children and adolescents are in confinement worldwide. 1 In 2003, the number of juveniles incarcerated in the U.S. alone reached nearly 100,000.2 According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, in June 2004 an estimated 7,083 persons under the age of 18 were held in adult jails, accounting for 1% of the total jail population.3 Once in state custody, children are victimized by sexual abuse, denied adequate education, denied adequate physical or mental healthcare, subjected to physical and emotional violence, improperly housed with adult populations, and provided insufficient contact with their parents and families. Children’s right to counsel in delinquency proceedings is in jeopardy with courts permitting “waiver of counsel” in such proceedings before a child consults with an attorney. As a result, American society’s most vulnerable individuals – children of color – are often left without any form of defense in an already discriminatory criminal justice system.

For those who are detained, a population that is disproportionately comprised of minorities, inhuman and cruel conditions of confinement remain pervasive in prisons/jails, juvenile facilities and immigration detention centers, where guards, law enforcement officials and correctional authorities continue to use restraint chairs and electro-shock weapons, including taser guns, resulting in the loss of many lives. In the context of Hurricane Katrina, in Orleans Parish Prison and in other Gulf Coast facilities, incarcerated people were denied adequate or safe food and water, denied adequate medical care, locked in unsafe and unsanitary conditions and transported unsafely, victimized by violence and brutality at the hands of guards, subjected to pervasive and widespread racial discrimination and abuse, and denied contact with families before, during, and after the storm.

Even before they encounter the criminal justice system, minorities are selectively targeted, and disproportionately arrested, charged, indicted, and prosecuted. For poor, largely minority citizens, the right to counsel in criminal cases has become illusory, with indigent defense systems woefully inadequate and under funded in many parts of the country resulting in indigent people not receiving adequate legal representation. The absence of oversight by either the federal, state or local governments has perpetuated a system that lacks accountability and fundamental fairness and unsurprisingly, minorities are convicted in greater numbers and greater proportions than whites. Moreover, sentencing disparities have resulted in the discriminatory overrepresentation of minorities in jails and prisons. While more than 8 out of 10 individuals prosecuted by the U.S. government under the crack cocaine mandatory minimum laws is African-American, only one third of crack cocaine users are African-American.

The system of education in the United States is fraught with inadequacies and inequities. More than fifty years after the seminal U.S. Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education mandated educational desegregation, many students of color throughout the U.S. continue to struggle in racially isolated, under funded and inadequate schools. Too often, schools, especially those with high minority concentrations, do not have the resources to provide students with an adequate education, and as a result students fare poorly under the high-stakes testing mandated by federal law, and their rates of graduation from high school suffer. Minority students are also subjected to discriminatory discipline, usually for non-violent behavior. Often they have special educational needs and face policies and practices that channel them out of schools and into the juvenile and criminal justice systems, often referred to as the “school to prison pipeline.”

Affirmative action, policies designed to close the gap between American ideals of equal opportunity and the stubborn realities of structural racism, sexism and institutional exclusion in education, employment and contracting practices, is once again under attack. This carries enormous implications for the lives of women – white and minority – as well as African-Americans, Latinos, Native Americans, Asians, South Asians and Arabs, all of whom have been historic and contemporary beneficiaries of the policy. Opponents of affirmative action, including the current U.S. administration, have attacked the policy in the federal courts, and highly-funded and well-organized detractors have financed referenda to repeal programs in several states. Most recently, in 2006, the state of Michigan passed a ballot amendment to the Michigan Constitution that eliminates affirmative action at the state’s public colleges and in government contracting.

Regarding the purportedly cherished right to vote, America is far out of step with the world, barring 5.4 million disproportionately minority citizens from voting in federal and state elections, often for no more than writing a bad check. Federal laws banning racial discrimination in elections are barely enforced, and the government has obstructed private citizens’ use of laws aimed at improving the administration of elections. Additionally, there is a long history of racial discrimination against Native Americans in voting and in political representation.

Remedies for civil rights violations have also been “rolled back.” Beginning in the 1980s, federal courts, in a series of decisions in key areas of the law such as educational equality, employment discrimination, sexual harassment and prison abuse, have limited the ability of people to file and win cases. These decisions restrict access to courts and erode remedies for practices that discriminate against racial and ethnic minorities, women, and other vulnerable populations.

Finally, the U.S. asserts that information about state-level implementation is present throughout the report and refers the Committee to its annex on four states. It is not only the federal government that is bound by the Convention. State and local governments are equally bound. While statelevel information is scattered throughout the report, the four states the U.S. has chosen to draw the Committee’s attention to — Illinois, New Mexico, Oregon and South Carolina — are highly unrepresentative. In addition, the information provides a highly misleading portrait of racial discrimination in those four states because it is incomplete. Even more notably, it excludes populous California and Texas, states with large migrant communities and where some of the nation’s most egregious racial discrimination takes place. The U.S. Report also blatantly overlooks states with large Native American populations. We further regret that the U.S. chose to disregard racial discrimination in the Gulf Coast states of Louisiana and Mississippi, where Hurricane Katrina exposed the terrible social and economic inequities attendant upon those states’ minority and underprivileged populations.

<b>The ACLU calls upon the U.S. to improve its abysmal performance in these areas and to take immediate, robust action to bring the U.S. into compliance with its obligations under this vital convention.</b>
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For the full report:
http://www.aclu.org/pdfs/humanrights/cerd_full_report.pdf

#4 thunderclap, Apr 26, 2008
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bigtexxx said:

quit feeling sorry for yourself and live your life. This isn't the 1950s

TIA
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You Missed the whole point.That's what's wrong with this country.

#5 rocket3forlife2, Apr 26, 2008
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rocket3forlife2 said:

I know white people get on the offensive when they here people like Farrakhan say things about white people,....
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Blanket statement = racist.

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....but blacks understand that he is not talking to all whites. He is talking directly to the rich white closet racist that run this country and control things.
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Gee. Thanks for clearing that up for my poor, dumb, white ass. Who are these rich white closet racists, anyway?

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You Missed the whole point.That's what's wrong with this country.
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So what's your point, exactly? Obama gets a pass? Rev. Wright gets a pass? Racism is cool and all if its perpetuated against white people?

The double standard in play here is appalling.

You did remind me why I so rarely come into the D&D. Thanks, I guess.

#6 Lynus302, Apr 26, 2008
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I noticed Wright comments didn’t really faze too many blacks, because we do indeed believe that governments have created diseases for chemical, and biological warfare. Blacks do believe that there are a lot of high ranking public officials that are KKK to in different offices around this till today. I know white people get on the offensive when they here people like Farrakhan say things about white people, but blacks understand that he is not talking to all whites. He is talking directly to the rich white closet racist that run this country and control things. I can only hope people will look at these videos with an open mind and to not just criticize, but to try to understand where the mind sets of blacks & especially older blacks come from when it obtains to racism.
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I'm sure the videos are enlightening, but your accompanying commentary is ridiculous and embarrassing to me as a black person. We're at a point in history where resentment and paranoia such as that displayed in your comments will probably "hold us back" socially, politically and economically much more than anything else.

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Racism is cool and all if its perpetuated against white people?
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Yeah.

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Instead of a war on poverty, they got a war on drugs so the police can bother me

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I see where you are coming from, but don't know where you are heading.....

#10 Tom Bombadillo, Apr 27, 2008
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Lynus302 said:

Blanket statement = racist.

I know some whites in Chicago who think different.

Gee. Thanks for clearing that up for my poor, dumb, white ass.

You did remind me why I so rarely come into the D&D. Thanks, I guess.
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Don’t be so hard on yourself and it’s amazing how offended so called open minded people in here try to have an inelegant conversation about race.
So what's your point, exactly? Obama gets a pass? Rev. Wright gets a pass? Racism is cool and all if it’s perpetuated against white people?

The double standard in play here is appalling.

You did remind me why I so rarely come into the D&D. Thanks, I guess.

What did he say exactly that was racists?

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I'm sure the videos are enlightening, but your accompanying commentary is ridiculous and embarrassing to me as a black person. We're at a point in history where resentment and paranoia such as that displayed in your comments will probably "hold us back" socially, politically and economically much more than anything else.
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I don’t resent anything and nobody is paranoid, but you. You feel like my commentary is degrading and will hold back the black race (lol)?

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I see where you are coming from, but don't know where you are heading.....
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Thread has nothing to do with me! I don’t hate whites, blacks or any other race, but we should all be conscious of what is going on around us. I’m not asking anybody to like obama.

James J.P Colmen,J.F.K, and Lyndon b Johnson were good friends….and as a matter a fact Johnson said Colman was one of his best friends….now tell me this.

Why does Kennedy and L.B.J get a pass for being very good friends from a governor who called blacks the N word constantly on nation TV and no one batted a eye.

Why do all the republican presidents speak a brown university when that’s the breading ground for the Klux Klan and the college has been openly racists?

Does this make you upset also?I'm pretty sure it dosn't

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You can get all the cointelpro docs now in a nice book.

I have it - it's an interesting read.

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You can get all the cointelpro docs now in a nice book.

I have it - it's an interesting read.
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Where did you find it?

#13 rocket3forlife2, Apr 27, 2008

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Where did you find it?
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You can find a copy in Jeremiah Wright's study in his million+ dollar house in the white suburbs of Chicago. Dang that racist America that is holding him back!

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While I wouldn't be as overt and as critical about racism in North America (calling the rich "closet racists" isin't advancing your cause), I do beleive that you have to be either an idiot or someone who is very sheltered if you don't see the discrimination still present in our culture. It's prevelant everywhere, from comedy to police brutality cases. And this is from both sides of the playing fields; racism extends both ways. White to black, black to white, Arab to white etc.

Personally though, I think the minorites of America have more to gripe about . It's hard to remember this, but only a generation has passed since the days of MLK. And even the "model minority" still remembers sobering head taxes and the blatent discrimination launched at them a century ago. It's a hard fact of life that people harbor resentment that was born years before them. Maybe it is lamentable but it still is a very legitimate issue. I mean, come on, people of any race are not encoded to commit violence. They are not born lazy. They are not born to give up. They are not born to be drug dealers or gangbangers. People who are don't go out drinking all night because that is thier fate; they are victims of circumstance and it's no coincidence that the majority of them are minorities.

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Personally though, I think the minorites of America have more to gripe about . It's hard to remember this, but only a generation has passed since the days of MLK.
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So why keep bringing it up? I thought your candidate was attempting to transcend race. You just keep bringing it up over and over.

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bigtexxx said:

So why keep bringing it up? I thought your candidate was attempting to transcend race. You just keep bringing it up over and over.
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...Not every post I make is in support of Obama. And I don't support everything Obama says. As a matter of fact, being a Canadian, I can't even vote for the guy, I just stand up for him as a matter of principle. My own principle; that politics shouldn't be tampered with silly, moronic arguments meant to throw dirt on a candidate's personality/character rather this his platform.

With that said, care to address my post instead of addressing my "candidate"?

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Northside Storm said:

...Not every post I make is in support of Obama. And I don't support everything Obama says. As a matter of fact, being a Canadian, I can't even vote for the guy, I just stand up for him as a matter of principle. My own principle; that politics shouldn't be tampered with silly, moronic arguments meant to throw dirt on a candidate's personality/character rather this his platform.

With that said, care to address my post instead of addressing my "candidate"?
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pfft. You're Canadian? your opinion on US politics is worthless.

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You can find a copy in Jeremiah Wright's study in his million+ dollar house in the white suburbs of Chicago. Dang that racist America that is holding him back!
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Are you mad because he lives' in a big nice house, and you’re still stuck in a trailer? Maybe if a member of his church, didn’t have to get secret service protection earlier then any other presidential candidate in American history, because your friends you hang with that ware the sheets were sending him death threats. Then maybe” he wouldn’t feel that way about this perfect country.

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bigtexxx said:

pfft. You're Canadian? your opinion on US politics is worthless.
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Denial is the first step

...But besides, racism isin't just an American issue. Or a Canadian issue. Or a Russian issue, it's a global issue.

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