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Coaches and Players in the Know Say Ming is the Thing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JeffB, Jun 23, 2002.

  1. JeffB

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    Players and coaches in the know agree transition should be smooth
    By JONATHAN FEIGEN
    Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle

    After more than 400 NBA games, David Benoit has a pretty good idea what an NBA star looks like. He has played with and against the best, and also Greg Ostertag.

    Benoit has long since learned the difference. He is convinced he can spot something special on a basketball court -- and that he has seen it again.

    "I've played with Shawn Bradley. I played against (Hakeem) Olajuwon when he was at his best," Benoit said. "Yao Ming to me is way more to the Olajuwon side. And he's going to be better than Rik Smits. I'm not taking anything away from Rik. But this guy is right there with Rik at this time. And he's going to get better.

    "This guy can play. He can really play."

    Benoit joined Yao's Shanghai Sharks in time for the team's playoff run to the China Basketball Association championship earlier this year. But he is not alone in his raves. Other veterans of the NBA and CBA offered similar proclamations.

    "If he was coming out of the University of Houston right now, he would be averaging 30 points, eight blocks, a bunch of rebounds, ESPN would be going crazy, Houston would be going crazy," Pistons assistant coach Tony Ronzone, who was an assistant with the Chinese national team for five months, said. "I just love the kid. But especially being with (Rockets coach) Rudy (Tomjanovich) and playing with Steve Francis, I think great things will happen."

    The compliments come quickly from the players and coaches who know Yao in part because he seems to have the desire needed to make the most of his ample tools. At 7-5, with surprising agility and soft, sure hands, Yao has the right combination of size and skills. But he also has a lot of work to do to adjust his game and body to the NBA.

    "He wants to learn, to get better, and he's a real competitor," Ronzone said. "This kid is a gym rat. He's the first one on the floor and the last one to leave. He calls me at night. I love the kid, and people will love him. He is a media star. He's great with the media. People don't really know about Yao, but they're about to find out."

    Ronzone said the growing pains will not be nearly as trying as many predict. He said Yao's size, skills and sense of the game will make him and the Rockets immediate factors.

    "Forget about all that stuff people are saying about it taking one, two or three years for him to get acclimated to the NBA," Ronzone said. "He will be successful right away.

    "With what the Rockets have, guards like Cuttino (Mobley) and Steve Francis, those guys are going to be loving Yao. He can pass from the post and has great skills. He can play. He can run the floor. And another big thing is that this is a kid who was not forced to play basketball because of his size. He's a kid who wanted to play basketball.

    "I'll tell you what: I'd hate to be in the West right now. With the Rockets adding Yao Ming to what they have, I think the Rockets are right back (in the playoff mix)."

    But Yao apparently believes he will have to adjust. He asked Tomjanovich about fitting his game into the Rockets' style and how he would have developed had he played college basketball in the United States.

    He also has asked players with NBA experience.

    "He told me he knows he would have a big adjustment to the game," Benoit said. "He said it will take a year, year-and-a-half. Me personally, I don't see it taking that long. The level of play of his game is just tremendous.

    "He is really a good team player. He has a good understanding of how to be the center of the game. His maturity level is very, very high. I was amazed by it. He understands what's important. This guy can shoot 18-foot jumpers and 3-pointers. But he knows how to be a big man, to be down low and handle that part of the game."

    Alex Carcamo, who played in China last season, has been working out for NBA teams in hopes of landing a free-agent contract. But as one of the regulars at the UCLA offseason workouts with Kobe Bryant and Paul Pierce, he said he knows what Yao will face -- and what NBA players will face going against him.

    "There's no doubt about what he'll do," Carcamo said. "You don't find a 7-6 athlete that can move the way he does. He can post up. He can shoot the 15-footer. He plays good defense. He led in blocked shots.

    "I've played against NBA players; I played against him. What he did in China, it's not a fluke.

    "It's not natural to find a player that tall with that much athleticism. Everybody says `small body.' But all they have to do is get him in a weight room. He has huge lower body. He knows how to post up. He has moves. He knows how to pass. He's a great teammate, too. They did a great job teaching him.

    "Out of 29 NBA teams, there might be five good centers. He would have to be one of them. Right away. Right now."

    Benoit is just as certain. But more than that, he said he is as convinced that Yao will change the Rockets.

    "Great players are great team players," Benoit said. "This guy is a great player. And I love Steve Francis. When they add Yao Ming to that mix, they'll have something. He has the desire to play the game, not just score. He's a competitor. He will make himself a great defensive player.

    "Eventually, he will be an All-Star -- every year if he's injury-free. I believe Yao Ming will make them competitive just by him being on the floor.

    "I've played with Mark Eaton, played with Shawn Bradley. I played against some of the biggest names of the NBA. I'm telling you, this guy can play."
     
  2. RocketForever

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    No surprise. Almost everyone who has actually played against or played together with Ming before said good things about him.
     
  3. Doc Rocket

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    I say trade the pick!!


    Right???





    Anyone????





    I mean, we can get Odom, right???



    ;)
     
  4. Oski2005

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    So when Francis plays with Ming, he will have a better opinion of him as well. Instead of bashing the guy, let's wait for him to be "YAOED" before we pass judgement.
     
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    The Chronicle now has a section dedicated to Yao Ming and the draft:

    Yao Central

    "The NBA has gone international, but Asia remains a relatively untapped market. The Rockets were at the forefront of the Africa explosion with Hakeem Olajuwon. Will Yao Ming start a new era in the NBA?"
     
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    This is from Final Frontier article in Houston Chronicle

    "If you go by numbers and percentages, it has to be the next untapped market because there are over 200 million registered basketball players in China. And here's something that will blow you away -- I was up in the northern part of China, up near the Mongolian border, and I found 20 7-footers between the ages of 13 and 17. You can't find five 7-footers over here in America between those ages.

    "There's a 16-year-old 7-footer over there right now who will be in the NBA in the next three or four years. And there's a 12-year-old kid over there that I worked out who's already 6-11. They're saying he might be 7-8. I was blown away when I was over there."

    All I can say is wow!!!

    -G'day-
     
  8. Oski2005

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    You know, the Russians did some grizzly things to kids to make them athletes for the olympics. Is it possible China is "creating" 7 footers to win at basketball? I doubt it, but conspiracy theories are good for wacky fun.
     
  9. hpscc

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    The only ways I can think of to 'create' tall players would be to breed them or do it surgically (breaking the bones and resetting.)

    Is that the kind of stuff the Russians were alleged to have done?
     
  10. Deuce

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    Yeah, I read that part of the article too and was blown away! I never knew that there were that many tall people over there. Just goes to show how much of an untapped market it is! It will be interesting to see how many more Asians get into the NBA over the next 10 years.

    12 years old and already 6'-11"? Good grief! I bet he is the number one pick on the schoolyard playground bb teams! ;)

    Chris
     
  11. redao

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    I wonder why not send them to USA? Even I can be educated in USA. So would they. They are in badly need to be trained in Basketball kingdom.
     
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    I suppose if they breed them, it isn't bad, unless you feel making test tube babies for sports is wrong. In russia, they forced girls to take steroids and human growth hormones. A lot of these girls grew up with their hormones so messed up that they had operations to become men. Seriously, I doubt China's doing anything. If all those 7 footers where in one part of the country, it's just a natural collection of genes in a small area.
     
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    The Northern Chinese are from Mongol descent. Think about it, their ancestors were barbarians. They might just be naturally bigger.
     
  14. redao

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    The skeptism of CHina on anything is making me disgusting. Why do you people always think Chinese should be so bad??? Did Chinese humilate anyone from west? I only know how Chinese suffered from west. I hate politics and racists.
     
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    In case anyone forgot, there is more than 1 Billion people in China. It stands to reason there would be some tall ones.
     
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    Ming can't be drafted to be traded. The only way he'll enter the draft is at # 1 on a team that wants and needs him - the Rockets. China wants this announced before draft day. They want the cake, Ming - the icing. This is a political ploy for the Chinese. "You land a jet on our soil, we keep strings on OUR player". Are you friends with Steve Francis? Odom might end up on another team after the draft. I'd give him 1 in 6 odds of making our roster. To get him, we'd probably have to give up multiple players and possible future pick.
     
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    I'm getting chills just thinking about him in a Rockets uniform. I saw highlights of him on ESPN last night and he's still pretty big and thick for a man his size. Yeah he needs to bulk up a bit, but I don't see him getting pushed around by more mature big men. They'll give him fits obviously, but as he adjusts I think he'll be able to bang with them. I can't believe we're going to get a franchise center. So now the Rockets will have a franchise center, franchise PG, franchise PF, and one of the better shooting guards, and probably fastest and most explosive, SG in the NBA. Bring on the big boys!
     
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    Doc was just kidding fred.
     
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    People in Northern China are on average taller than those in the south. Most Overseas Chinese around the rest of the world are from Southern China, particularlly from Guandong and Fujian Province.

    -G'day-
     
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    I just wanted to say that I am Ming's biggest supporter. Don't believe his family, friends, or anyone else. I am the Real Deal. Ming's #1 fan!
     

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