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CNNUSATODAYGALLUP SHOCK POLL: Kerry beats Bush 53-46 in head-to-head matchup...

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  1. Oski2005

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    Kerry leads Bush in new poll
    Bush's approval numbers dip
    Monday, February 2, 2004 Posted: 3:56 PM EST (2056 GMT)


    ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry, the front-runner among Democrats vying for their party's presidential nomination, leads President Bush in a head-to-head matchup, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Monday.

    And Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina and retired Gen. Wesley Clark, two other Democrats in the field, come within a few points of beating Bush, according to the hypothetical match-ups in the poll, which also found a decline in Bush's approval numbers.

    The poll, based on interviews with 1,001 adult Americans, including 562 likely voters, was conducted in the days after the New Hampshire primary.

    The poll underscores both Kerry's momentum after his wins in New Hampshire and Iowa, and increased favorability among Democrats in general as they dominate political news with their primaries and steady criticism of Bush.

    The general election is slightly more than nine months away and Bush has yet to launch his campaign in earnest, meaning the poll numbers are all but certain to shift.

    When the 562 likely voters were asked for their choice from a Bush v. Kerry race, 53 percent of those picked Kerry, and 46 percent favored Bush.

    When that same group was asked to pick between Edwards and Bush, the numbers were 49 percent for Bush and 48 percent for Edwards. With a Bush/Clark face-off, Bush was favored by 50 percent of those surveyed and Clark, 47 percent.

    Howard Dean, the onetime front-runner in the Democratic field, had a poorer showing against Bush, 45 percent to 52 percent for the incumbent.

    The question of choice for president among likely voters had a sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. The margin or error was different for other questions, as some questions were posed to likely voters, others to just Democrats and others to all adults surveyed.

    Kerry was the overwhelming choice of registered Democrats for the presidential nomination. Support for Kerry as the Democratic nominee stood at 49 percent, compared to 14 percent for Dean and 13 percent for Edwards. The other Democratic candidates were in the single digits.

    The poll showed Bush's job approval rating at 49 percent among all the adults surveyed, the first time since he became president that his job approval has dipped below 50 percent. A month ago his rating was at 60 percent, as he enjoyed a spike in approval after the capture of Saddam Hussein.

    A majority of those polled now say they disapprove of Bush's handing of the economy, foreign affairs, the situation in Iraq and health care. The poll also showed the nation evenly divided -- 49 percent to 49 percent -- on the question of whether it was worth going to war in Iraq, marking the first time approval of the war has dropped below 50 percent.

    However, a majority of those polled -- 54 percent -- said they do not believe Bush deliberately misled the country on whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, while 43 percent said they believe there was deception.

    Despite the apparent rising fortunes of Democrats, the poll showed Bush enjoyed advantages over his rivals in several areas.

    For example Bush was seen as a stronger leader than Kerry -- 53 percent to 39 percent --and, despite Kerry's military service in Vietnam, more patriotic than the senator from Massachusetts, 49 percent to 34 percent.

    And,on the question of Iraq, more Americans trusted Bush than Kerry, 50 percent to 44 percent.

    --CNN Polling Director Keating Holland contributed to this report.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/02/02/elec04.poll.prez/index.html
     
  2. El_Conquistador

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    PREMATURE SPECULATION
     
  3. ron413

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    Watch your language TJ...

    "Despite the apparent rising fortunes of Democrats, the poll showed Bush enjoyed advantages over his rivals in several areas. "
     
  4. Oski2005

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    I don't remember saying anywhere that the election was over. I got this from Drudge btw. It's just a poll, but a truly confidant person would have just shrugged it off.
     
  5. Uprising

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    hmmmya... It is just a poll though.
     
  6. flamingmoe

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    yer right, Kerry should beat Bush by a whole lot more than 7 points

    no need to get ahead of ourselves
     
  7. nyquil82

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    I agree TJ, polls are usually inaccurate and are flawed in their procedure. Im pretty sure by doing a phone poll they missed a lot of people that would vote for Bush, since many are in bomb shelters and some dont even have phones. Others are overseas defending and dying for our country. Im sure if you included these people into the statistics, Bush would be a bit closer to Kerry in the informal polls.
     
  8. glynch

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    Bush will react to this poll. Always does.

    Code orange alerts, Moon-Mars programs , lover of the arts and talk about invading Pakistan etc. just haven't helped.

    What will he do next?

    Dump Cheney?

    Actually visit some disabled veterans or try to rekindle the 9/11 grief. These are tricky as he could go to the well one time too many with this and wind up losing in a landslide.

    Maybe the gay marriage thing can be ratchetted up, but that only plays to his faithful followers

    Maybe an investigation of the Janet Jackson boob exposition. I see the FCC has jumped on that major issue.

    I don't think he'll try an appearance on a battleship or a day trip to Afghanistan.

    Maybe a trip to a school in the ghetto where he will bounce a little African American kid on his lap and read to him. This has long been a favorite of his mother and wife. You know a sort of compassionate conservative feint.

    What do you all think he'll do? I'm sure someone on cc.net can come up with the next gimmick he employs.
     
  9. MacBeth

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    If only you were capable of being selective, I'd call this selective reasoning, if only you were capable of reas....
     
  10. bamaslammer

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    Guys, it is Feb. Election is November. The worst landslide defeat of any Democrat in many moons is just months away.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    -bamaslammer, February 2, 1992.
     
  12. Deckard

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    Wow, what a slide. Things the Administration counted on for a "bounce" in popularity haven't panned out. Saddam is captured and Bush's approval rating climbs to 60%... one month later it's 49%, the lowest of his presidency. That's shocking. And sandwiched in between is a State of the Union address, which is always a sure-fire bounce for any President, and Bush's approval rating goes down after his.

    If you look at the trend of the last month, early or not, you can bet there are some white knuckles in the White House. This is unprecedented. His supporters can denigrate what's happening to Bush's popularity all they want, but I don't think this can be understated... Bush is in big trouble. No question about it.

    The American public wants him gone and are casting their eyes on the Democratic candidates as they get narrowed down and liking what they see... and they clearly want to vote for one of them.
     
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    This is probably gonna sound way more offensive than I mean for it to, but...

    It must be really aggravating for Republicans to be back on the defensive. They've had three years of kicking the **** out of liberals and moderates, and that time is coming to an end (regardless of the election outcome). Democrats are finding their voice again, and the kid gloves are coming off. A semblence of two *different* parties is starting to take shape.

    Republicans have had an unprecedented three-year run of getting everything they wanted by cloaking it in patriotism and wrapping it in an American flag. They've obviously gotten used to the free pass from the terrified American people, and it's going to be tough for them to relinguish control of the national debate.

    I mean no offense to anyone in particular -- it was just a passing thought. I bet this election season gets DAMN ugly.
     
  14. Uprising

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    Amen...
     
  15. RocketMan Tex

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    I find it humorous that CNN has a poll with Kerry beating Bush while Faux News has a poll with Bush beating Kerry...by exactly the same margin.

    This country is easily as divided, if not more divided, than it was heading into the 2000 Presidential (s)election. G-d willing, whoever wins, we will be spared the ugliness of hanging chads, recounts and the Supreme Court selecting the President rather than the poplulus electing the President.
     
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    Let me state it here now that I think it is a calculated mistake for Karl Rove and co to put the GOP 'normination day' in NYC. Ithink sincerely think it will backfire.

    Anyway it is too early to tell but this poll result is shocking nontheless. Pat Robertson has already predicted that GWB will win come November. He said God revealed it to him. Interesting. God also revealed to me that he will NOT. So lets see whose God is greater eh or who is seeing fuzzy vision? Common November.
     
  17. robbie380

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    i hear god and jesus also wanted the pats to win
     
  18. MadMax

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    as a Christian, i'm so disturbed by how loose and fast he plays with this stuff. i don't doubt that God speaks to people...believe me, i don't doubt that at all. but true prophecy from God is 100% right 100% of the time....Pat Robertson has shown that he has not been that way. He even admits to it. it's ridiculous...and it really frustrates me.
     
  19. robbie380

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    isnt that what all politicians do?

    do any of these guys actually have substance?
     
  20. Jeff

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    Polls, schmolls. Show me the same poll a week before the election and I'll start believing the hype. Right now, you have one party in the spotlight and an incumbent doing nothing but sitting there taking criticism over policy from the party in the spotlight.

    Gallup is by far the most reliable and respectable of the pollsters so the results have to be taken seriously, but no one should really be surprised.

    In case we all forgot, the 2000 election was the closest in recorded history. I know the GOP forgot because they rode into office like they had just beat Gore by 20 points and the country had suddenly declared its personal allegience to Carl Rove, but the reality is that this country is pretty damn well divided between the two parties.

    And the Dems aren't saints either. Clinton's administration played the smug card WAY too often and pretended that respectibility doesn't matter. They just assumed that everything would work out fine because they were facing a guy in Bush with more skeletons in his closet than Larry Flynt and the vocabulary of a dislyexic 3rd grader. But instead of ending up in the White House, Gore ended up drowing his sorrows in Dunkin' Doughnuts and a beard that nearly swallowed his face.

    The moral: fortunes can change quickly in politics.

    No one should be declaring victory in January. The election season doesn't kickoff until Labor Day and I guarantee you that the polls will be all over the map between now and then.
     

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