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[CNN] Massive protests at French job law

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  1. oomp

    oomp Member

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    This was on Faux News at the place I ate lunch at today. Water cannons and Riot cops everywhere in Paris. Not even on the Chronicle's online front page.

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/03/28/france.protests/index.html

    Massive protests at French job law
    Strike disrupts train, plane and subway traffic

    Tuesday, March 28, 2006; Posted: 1:48 p.m. EST (18:48 GMT)

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    Riot policemen arrest a protester after a protest in Paris on Tuesday.

    PARIS, France (CNN) -- Hundreds of thousands of protesters packed the streets of French cities and stalled the transportation system Tuesday, protesting a controversial labor law that would allow employers to more easily hire and fire young workers.

    As the day wore on, police were ordered to clear the Place de La Republic, a large square in central Paris.

    On one side of the square, police fired tear gas and on another side of the park, police used water canons to fire jets of water at the protesters.

    In addition to Paris, protesters packed streets in a number of French cities including Lile, Marseille, Bordeaux and Rennes.

    French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin told members of his party Tuesday that while is willing to modify the new law -- the contrat premihre embauche or CPE -- he will not back down despite the protests.

    Villepin has said the new law is necessary to create job opportunities for young people. He proposed the measure after riots last November by youth disaffected with the French way of life.

    But on Monday night, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy, who may be Villepin's major challenger in next year's run for president, told a meeting of his party -- the Union for a Popular Movement (UMP) -- that it is time for France to change.

    Speaking to a crowd in the northern town of Douai, Sarkozy said: "I have come here tonight to tell you that it is necessary, urgent, and above all, possible to change our habits and conventions.

    "We have reached a moment of truth: The French must choose between paralysis and movement."

    However, Sarkozy said he favored a temporary suspension of the CPE while a compromise is negotiated.

    The massive protests are in some ways ironic. Protesters, mostly students, are asking the government not to change the status quo. Under current French law, merit in the workplace has little sway. Workers cannot be easily or inexpensively fired.

    As a result, employers are reluctant to hire new workers, resulting in an overall French unemployment rate of 9.6 percent. The CPE would allow employers to hire and fire workers who are 26 years old and younger any time within their first two years of employment for any reason.

    Villepin has said he hopes the measure will reduce youth unemployment from the current 23 percent, but union and student leaders say it will create a generation of "throwaway workers" who will have to churn through jobs until they are older than 26.

    Protesters were focusing on stalling the French transport system. Commuters faced delays on public transport and airports were expected to be hit by stoppages.

    One flight in three was canceled at airports nationwide, according to the national civil aviation authority. (More on the disruption)

    Some postal workers, teachers and media employees were also among those striking.

    Transport workers were the first to strike, stopping work on some railway and subway lines beginning Monday evening.

    Many trains were still running, including on the Eurostar line to Brussels and London.

    Opinion polls show almost two-thirds of French people oppose the CPE and unions said 135 rallies were planned across France. Police said they would be out in force because of fears violence could flare, as it did during protests last week when cars were burned.


    Students take to the streets in Bordeaux, southwestern France.Mass street demonstrations are closely watched in France after protests over pension reforms in 1995 which were widely credited with losing the conservatives the snap election called two years later -- in part on Villepin's advice.

    Fears of a broader revolt have been fueled by incidents in Paris last week including looting, clashes with riot police and the mugging of student demonstrators by hard-core elements.

    Earlier this year, Villepin ignored unions and forced the youth job contract through parliament despite reservations from his ministers and some members of the ruling party.

    Villepin, 52, a former foreign minister who has never been elected to public office, has invited unions and student groups to meet him for talks on Wednesday but it is not clear whether they will accept the invitation.

    Opposition Socialist Party leader Francois Hollande said on Monday the invitation would be pointless if Villepin was not ready to scrap the youth job contract.

    "I don't want my country ... to have another meaningless meeting on Wednesday," he said. "The law must be changed."

    President Jacques Chirac, who appointed Villepin last May, backs him over the CPE. But observers say the prime minister's actions have caused some concern in his own party, although members recognize the need to cut the overall unemployment rate.

    Copyright 2006 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Hmm...the French sure do like to protest.

    What's this? Like the third or fourth mass protest/rioting in the past year alone?
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Imagine that. A country where people care, and are passionate about politics. I wished citizens here would get that fired up about issues.
     
  4. oomp

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    My wife and I were talking about this issue last night. Those kids yesterday in LA who organized using myspace.com, is a good start.
     
  5. MadMax

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    the ones who they quoted on the local news didn't have the first clue it was they were even marching for. they stuck a microphone in a girl's face and she said they were marching for equal rights. he asked her to elaborate and she had no clue.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Something tells me that French labor laws aren't of much concern to the vast majority of the Chronicle's readership.
     
  7. halfbreed

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    So rioting is an acceptable form of political discussion?
     
  8. oomp

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    Are you talking Paris or here?

    Here is a start at least. It's more than we've seen in America in since the Million Man March. It's kids doing it, which I find inspiring - future leaders in training. The previous American generation only had slackers and shoe-gazers. I'm a shoe-gazer, so I'm not complaining, but this is already more than we ever did.

    In Paris, there is a real divide between the old and the young that seems to be worsening, we may be seeing this here when the baby-boomers start wanting to stay at work past retirement age.
     
  9. oomp

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    When it's the top story on every news network, it might be nice to report it.
     
  10. Aceshigh7

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    ROFLMAO. I am not suprised at all.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    Nice & redundant.

    Off topic, but I was reading a short essay today on the viability of the newspaper business and on how its silly and uneconomical for local newspapers to bother with putting int'l wire service stuff, stock quotes, and other things that are availabe in other places anyway on their websites and that they should focus on local issues and investigative stuff
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    it's there.

    "•Protests escalate in France (w/video)"
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    Nor am I. Young people don't always think through things as thoroughly as they should.

    How else can you explain Creed selling so many CDs?

    ;) :D
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    that was good.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    The law is ridiculous

    For two years. . If you under 26 . . .you will be a temp
    you can be fired for no reason .. like being a temp for two years
    on every job . . until you turn 26

    that is stupid
    Age discrimination to begin with

    Rocket River
     
  16. Rocket River

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    yea. . .and they would get fired
    Ask the Air Traffic controllers. . how govt handles protest?

    Rocket River
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    I didn't say rioting was good. I said being passionate about politics is good. I would take some rioting over a populace that weakly gives up their basic freedoms, because both sides are bad, or they thing it won't make a difference.
     
  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Had the air traffic controllers not broken their contract (which, as federal employees, included a no-strike clause), they would not have been fired.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    I did not think it was good to fire them, but they do fall under that specific category of workers that are required to work through problems, and don't have the option to strike.

    There is a specific clause for certain jobs, such as air traffic control, fire, police etc.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    the easily screwed

    Rocket River
    the companies have no reason to negotiate in good faith . .and rarely do
     

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