It was brought up in the chat yesterday that we could predict how we all did the upcoming season so that spurred the idea to create a prediction challenge for the upcoming season. What the prediction should consist of is open for discussion, but we should atleast predict all human teams. We also need to decide the scoring. As I have no power to give prospects in this game there will be no reward - just a crowned "I know it all" Champion. (If really wanted I can give the winner a new team in a higher division, but I will not allow for Premiership to be reached this way, but of course that means retiring the winning participant and creating him all over for the new team) I think we should allow for the prediction to come in as late as after 8 games into the season to make it easier. Here is what I suggest we predict. 1. Final League Position for managed teams. Spot on: 5 pts Within 1: 3 pts Within 3: 2 pts Within 5: 1 pts 8 or more off: -2 pts 11 or more off: -4 pts 2. Champions for all 5 divisions, 3pts each 3. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions, 2 pts each 4. Manager Points. Rank the managers first to last on how they will score in manager points this season. Get the order right: 10 pts Get all but 2: 7 pts 3 wrong: 5 pts 4 wrong: 4 pts 5 wrong: 3 pts 6 wrong: 2 pts 7 wrong: 1 pt How is this? Comments on the suggestion/pts given. Anything else we should predict? Awards? And maybe we should have own question too?
Prediction of the cups can be added: The FA-Cup: Predict the round each team reaches. If you get it right you will be awarded for each round: Round 1: 0.5 pt Round 2, 3: 1 pt Round 4: 1.5 pts Round 5, 6: 2 pts Semis: 2.5 pts Finals: 3 pts Winners: 5 pts The prediction is 9 steps long (1,2,3,4,5,6,SF,F,W). If you miss by 2 steps or more, you will be deducted: 2: 0.5 pt 3: 1 pt 4: 1.5 pts 5: 2 pts 6: 2.5 pts 7: 3 pts 8: 5 pts The same can be done for The League Cup. For Vans Trophy. Just predict the round. Get it right = 1 pt, if not you will get 0 pts no matter how hard you miss it. And btw - We are about to start the season in the chat. Any other suggestions or altercations for the prediction challenge, please offer them here. And maybe we could have a little reward for winning the challenge - job security - if you win it you will get to chose a better team than normally allowed for starting a new team. And those that doesnt want to start in D3 might also participate in the challenge, and be allowed to start in D2. The CM page have been updated with textfiles and also shortlists for Carlisle and Swindon. http://users2.ev1.net/~chkemp/ccnet/cmleague/
2-2-3-1-2 --x-x-- ---x--- -x-x-x- x-----x --x-x-- Whitehead SC, Corns SC Stein AMC or Farrell AMC (whoever's better) Murray MC, Hayward MC, Gonzalez MC Adams DML, Abbey DMR Came DC, Richardson DC Wilson GK Bench: Eyre (AM R), Joseph (DC), Emberson (GK), Munroe (F RC), Farrell or Stein Injured: Higgins (AM LC), Hitchen (D/DM R/L)
CM site updated after round 8 - predictions are due before next sim, and not that I think it will help any, but here are the current manager points: DV -- 4693* Pued -- 4607* haven -- 3490 Castor -- 2057 boville -- 1896 Cat -- 1637 SF3 -- 1475 BGM -- 1473 Zac -- 1354* Heath -- 1058 *) Won their first round game in The League Cup. Now on to the prediction setup: I. Final League position for managed teams: Lincoln -- Hull -- Swansea -- Carlisle -- Mansfield -- Plymouth -- Swindon -- Cheltenham -- Torquay -- Macclesfield -- II. Champions for all divisions: Premiership -- Division One -- Division Two -- Division Three -- Conference -- III. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions Premiership: Topscorer -- Assists -- MoMs -- Av R -- Division One: Topscorer -- Assists -- MoMs -- Av R -- Division Two: Topscorer -- Assists -- MoMs -- Av R -- Division Three: Topscorer -- Assists -- MoMs -- Av R -- Conference: Topscorer -- Assists -- MoMs -- Av R -- IV. Rank the managers according to Manager Points DV Pued haven Castor boville Cat SF3 BGM Zac Heath (Listed in current order. You got to rank them yourself. Games in higher divisions are valued more than lower, but league games counts for only a small amount of the points. Advancing in cups count for a lot, atleast in the FA-cup and also The League Cup. Final League position also counts, and there is also bonus for promoting) V. Team progress in The FA Cup: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W) Lincoln -- Hull -- Swansea -- Carlisle -- Mansfield -- Plymouth -- Swindon -- Cheltenham -- Torquay -- Macclesfield -- VI. Team progress in The League Cup: (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W): Lincoln -- Swansea -- Cheltenham -- VII. Team progress in The Vans Trophy Cup: (1, 2, RQF, RSF, RF, F, W): Hull -- Swansea -- Carlisle -- Mansfield -- Plymouth -- Swindon -- Cheltenham -- Torquay -- Macclesfield -- VIII. Own Question, Asked and Answered: ? Will come back with my prediction later.
I. Final League position for managed teams: Lincoln -- #11 (#24) Hull -- #12 (#2) Swansea -- #5 (#7) Carlisle --#2 (#11) Mansfield -- #1 (#1) Plymouth -- #3 (#5) Swindon -- #7 (#12) Cheltenham -- #11 (#16) Torquay -- #21 (#17) Macclesfield -- #6 (#20) Also posted current position for reference after the season. II. Champions for all divisions: Premiership -- Manchester United (#1) Division One -- Manchester City (#19) Division Two -- Stoke (#1) Division Three -- Mansfield (#1) - This is my year. If I had to pick someone else: Colchester (#9) or Bury (#10) Conference -- Barnet (#9) Also posted current position for reference after the season. III. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions Premiership: Topscorer -- Ruud van Nistelrooy, Man Utd (8th) Assists -- Ryan Giggs, Man Utd (unranked) MoMs -- Ryan Giggs, Man Utd (unranked) Av R -- Ryan Giggs, Man Utd (1st) Division One: Topscorer -- Peter Thorne, Cardiff (6th) Assists -- Mark Kennedy, Wolves (4th) MoMs -- Ade Akinbiyi, Bradford (1st) Av R -- Tommy Smith, Watford (3rd) Division Two: Topscorer -- James Hayter, Bournemouth (6th) Assists -- Ryan Williams, Hull (1st) MoMs -- Michael Jack, Carlisle (5th) Av R -- Marcel Cas, Notts Co (unranked) Division Three: Topscorer -- Kevin Rapley, Colchester (8th) Assists -- Brian McGlinchey, Plymouth (unranked) MoMs -- Giuliano Grazioli, Colchester (unranked) Av R -- José Manuel Meca, Plymouth (6th) Conference: Topscorer -- Lloyd Owusu, Brentford (5th) Assists -- Ryan Haigh, Stafford R (6th) MoMs -- Neil Sullivan, Telford (unranked) Av R -- Lloyd Owusu, Brentford (4th) Also posted current position for reference after the season. IV. Rank the managers according to Manager Points Pued (got to go with the D1 team, but will not end up here without a turnaround in form) Castor (with the risky pick of Carlisle continuing their form of last year I have to go with Castor) Heath (promotion and the usual cup advancement get me here) DV (the rest of the ... ) boville (boville winning the Vans Trophy and promoting split "the rest" ) haven (... D2 teams follows) BGM SF3 Zac Cat (Cat's team has suffered in the offseason, and this will make it hard for Cat to get MP) Will rank when I have finished the rest of the prediction. V. Team progress in The FA Cup: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W) Lincoln -- 4 (always have done something in the FA-cup) Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 3 Carlisle -- 2 Mansfield -- 4 (have faith that I can advance some rounds this year too to earn me some good Manager Points) Plymouth -- 1 Swindon -- 2 Cheltenham -- 3 Torquay -- 2 Macclesfield -- 1 VI. Team progress in The League Cup: (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W): removed from the prediction challenge due to extended time for posting predictions. VII. Team progress in The Vans Trophy Cup: (1, 2, RQF, RSF, RF, F, W): Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- RF Mansfield -- RSF Plymouth -- W Swindon -- 1 Cheltenham -- 2 Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield -- RQF I'll go all out and predict "The Meca Show" to win the Vans Trophy. VIII. Own Question, Asked and Answered: Which team will relegate down to the conference? Kidderminster
I. Final League position for managed teams: Lincoln -- 14th Hull -- 4th Swansea -- 8th Carlisle -- 17th Mansfield -- 2nd Plymouth -- 5th Swindon -- 12th Cheltenham -- 8th Torquay -- 22nd Macclesfield -- 15th II. Champions for all divisions: Premiership -- Manchester United. Division One -- Cardiff Division Two -- Stoke Division Three -- Oxford Conference -- Chester My own Question : By the time the season is over, Robert Jaeger will not be the manager of the Lincoln City Red Imps.
I. Final League position for managed teams: Lincoln -- #11 Hull -- #4 Swansea -- #5 Carlisle --#15 Mansfield -- #4 Plymouth -- #3 Swindon -- #8 Cheltenham -- #13 Torquay -- #16 Macclesfield -- #19 Also posted current position for reference after the season. II. Champions for all divisions: Premiership -- Manchester United Division One -- Norwich Division Two -- Nott Forest Division Three -- Colchester Conference -- Barnet Also posted current position for reference after the season. III. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions Premiership: Topscorer -- Ruud van Nistelrooy, Man Utd (8th) Assists -- Beckham MoMs -- Thierry Henry Av R -- Patrick Vieira Division One: Topscorer -- Peter Thorne, Cardiff (6th) Assists -- Mark Kennedy, Wolves (4th) MoMs -- Ade Akinbiyi, Bradford (1st) Av R -- Tommy Smith, Watford (3rd) Division Two: Topscorer -- James Hayter, Bournemouth (6th) Assists -- Ryan Williams, Hull (1st) MoMs -- Michael Jack, Carlisle (5th) Av R -- Marcel Cas, Notts Co (unranked) Division Three: Topscorer -- , Meca Assists -- Brian McGlinchey, Plymouth MoMs -- Thomas (plymouth) Av R -- José Manuel Meca, Plymouth (6th) Conference: Topscorer -- Lloyd Owusu, Brentford (5th) Assists -- Ryan Haigh, Stafford R (6th) MoMs -- Neil Sullivan, Telford (unranked) Av R -- Lloyd Owusu, Brentford (4th) Also posted current position for reference after the season. IV. Rank the managers according to Manager Points Pued DV Boville Castor Haven SF3 Cat Zac BGM Heath Will rank when I have finished the rest of the prediction. V. Team progress in The FA Cup: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W) Lincoln -- 5 Hull -- 1 Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- 2 Mansfield -- 3 Plymouth -- 2 Swindon -- 2 Cheltenham -- 2 Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield -- 2 VI. Team progress in The League Cup: (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W): Lincoln -- 4 Swansea -- 1 Cheltenham -- 2 VII. Team progress in The Vans Trophy Cup: (1, 2, RQF, RSF, RF, F, W): Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- F Mansfield -- RQF Plymouth -- W Swindon -- 1 Cheltenham -- 2 Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield --2 VIII. Own Question, Asked and Answered: MECA WILL BE THE FAVOURITE OF PLYMOUTH FANS WHEN SEASON ENDS
Lincoln-12th Swansea-1st Hull-3rd Carlisle-14th Mansfield-1st Plymouth-7th Cheltenham-11th Torquay-18th Swindon-15th Macclesfield-17th Champions Premier-Man U D1-Wycombe D2-Swansea D3-Mansfield Conf-Farnbourough Stats Premiership Goals-Van Nisterlooy Assists-Ryan Giggs MOM-Thierry Henry Av Rating-Thierry Henry D1 Goals-Ade Akinbiyi Assists-Mark Kennedy MOM-Ade Akinbiyi Av Rating-Ade Akinbiyi D2 Goals-Daniel Nardiello Assists-Ryan Williams MOM-Ryan Williams Av Rating-Ryan Williams D3 Goals-Rod Thomas Assists-Graham Potter MOM-Rod Thomas Av Rating-Rod Thomas Conference Goals-Neale Fenn Assists-John Murphy MOM-Neale Fenn Av Rating-Neale Fenn V. Team progress in The FA Cup: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W) Lincoln -- 4 (always have done something in the FA-cup) Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 3 Carlisle -- 2 Mansfield -- 4 (have faith that I can advance some rounds this year too to earn me some good Manager Points) Plymouth -- 1 Swindon -- 2 Cheltenham -- 3 Torquay -- 2 Macclesfield -- 1 VI. Team progress in The League Cup: (2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W): Lincoln -- 5 (maybe the game agains Reading can turn the season around for Lincoln, and with a bit of luck in the draw I'll go for 5th) Swansea -- 2 (Charlton probably too much for Swansea, although I can see the possibility for a win) Cheltenham -- 2 (No upset away at Wycombe) VII. Team progress in The Vans Trophy Cup: (1, 2, RQF, RSF, RF, F, W): Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- RF Mansfield -- RSF Plymouth -- W Swindon -- 1 Cheltenham -- 2 Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield -- RQF I'll go all out and predict "The Meca Show" to win the Vans Trophy. 6. My own question Alan Lee will finish in the top 10 for all D2 goal scorers at the end of the year
We will remove The League Cup section from the prediction thread and allow for prediction to come in a bit later, so you can still get in your prediction, or for those who has done them/started to do them - still have time to dosome fine tuning. We will probably end the prediction when we sim next time.
I. Final League position for managed teams: Lincoln -- 13 Hull -- 9 Swansea -- 6 Carlisle -- 10 Mansfield -- 3 Plymouth -- 5 Swindon -- 2 Cheltenham -- 7 Torquay -- 14 Macclesfield -- 9 II. Champions for all divisions: Premiership -- Manchester United Division One -- Wycombe Wanderers Division Two -- Stoke City Division Three -- Oxford United Conference -- Chester III. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions Premiership: Topscorer -- van Nistelrooy Assists -- Jason Euell MoMs -- van Nistelrooy Av R -- van Nistelrooy Division One: Topscorer -- Stephen McPhee Assists -- David Thompson MoMs -- Ade Akinyibi Av R -- Tommy Smith Division Two: Topscorer -- Leo Bertos Assists -- Ryan Williams MoMs -- Ryan Williams Av R -- Ryan Williams Division Three: Topscorer -- Grazioli Assists -- Graham Potter MoMs -- Steve Benbow Av R -- Rod Thomas Conference: Topscorer -- Karl Rose Assists -- Martin Barlow MoMs -- Brian Dawson Av R -- Neale Fenn IV. Rank the managers according to Manager Points Pued DV Castor Heath haven boville Cat Zac SF3 BGM V. Team progress in The FA Cup: (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, SF, F, W) Lincoln -- 3 Hull -- 2 Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- 4 Mansfield -- 4 Plymouth -- 2 Swindon -- 1 Cheltenham -- 3 Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield -- 2 VII. Team progress in The Vans Trophy Cup: (1, 2, RQF, RSF, RF, F, W): Hull -- RQF Swansea -- 2 Carlisle -- 2 Mansfield -- RSF Plymouth -- RSF Swindon -- 2 Cheltenham -- RQF Torquay -- 1 Macclesfield -- 2 VIII. Own Question, Asked and Answered: Who will be the playoff team that advances in D3? Plymouth
(CM textfiles updated) Update on the predictions so far: I. Final League position for managed teams: Team - Current - Heath - Pued - Bo - DV - Zac Lincoln -- 20 >>> 11 -- 14 -- 11-- 12 -- 13 Hull -- 21 >>> 12 -- 4 -- 4 -- 3 -- 9 Swansea -- 2 >>> 5 -- 8 -- 5 -- 1 -- 6 Carlisle -- 4 >>> 2 -- 17 -- 15 -- 14 -- 10 Mansfield -- 1 >>> 1 -- 2 -- 4 -- 1 -- 3 Plymouth -- 4 >>> 3 -- 5 -- 3 -- 7 -- 5 Swindon -- 3 >>> 7 -- 12 -- 8 -- 15 -- 2 Cheltenham -- 15 >>> 11 -- 8 -- 13 -- 11 -- 7 Torquay -- 21 >>> 21 -- 22 -- 16 -- 18 -- 14 Macclesfield -- 5 >>> 6 -- 15 -- 19 -- 17 -- 9 II. Champions for all divisions: Current: Premiership -- Manchester United (Heath, Pued, Bo, DV, Zac) Division One -- Southampton (none) Division Two -- Stoke (Heath, Pued) Division Three -- Mansfield (Heath, DV) Conference -- Scarborough (none) Only updated for the first two parts as all deliever prediction for those. Current prediction challenge standings for first 2 parts: 1. Heath --- 27 pts 2. Zac --- 7 pts 3. Pued --- 3 pts 3. DV --- 3 pts 5. boville --- 0 pts A lot can change with standings changing for managed teams, with this part having a lot of impact now. Current scoring breakdown for Part 1: Heath: Part 1 = 18 pts Spot on: 2 teams*5 pts = 10 pts Within 1: 2 teams*3 pts = 6 pts Within 3: 2 teams*2 pts = 4 pts Within 5: 2 teams*1 pt = 2 pts Within 7: none Within 10: 2 teams*-2 pts = -4 pts 11+ away: none Pued: Part 1 = -3 pts Spot on: none Within 1: 3 teams*3 pts = 9 pts Within 3: none Within 5: none Within 7: 3 teams*0 pts = 0 pts Within 10: 2 teams*-2 pts = -4 pts 11+ away: 2 teams*-4 pts = -8 pts Boville: Part 1 = -3 pts Spot on: none Within 1: 1 team*3 pts = 3 pts Within 3: 3 teams*2 pts = 6 pts Within 5: 2 teams*1 pt = 2 pts Within 7: none Within 10: 1 team*-2 pts = -2 pts 11+ away: 3 teams*-4 pts = -12 pts DV: Part 1 = -3 pts Spot on: 1 team*5 pts = 5 pts Within 1: 1 team*3 pts = 3 pts Within 3: 2 teams*2 pts = 4 pts Within 5: 1 team*1 pt = 1 pt Within 7: none Within 10: 2 teams*-2 pts = -4 pts 11+ away: 3 teams*-4 pts = -12 pts Zac: Part 1 = 4 pts Spot on: none Within 1: 2 teams*3 pts = 6 pts Within 3: 1 team*2 pts = 2 pts Within 5: 2 teams*1 pt = 2 pts Within 7: 3 teams*0 pts = 0 pts Within 10: 1 team*-2 pts = -2 pts 11+ away: 1 team*-4 pts = -4 pts
Prediction update for: III. Most Goals, Assists, MoMs and best average rating for all 5 divisions Premiership K. Phillips -- 13 I. Harte -- 7 R. Nistelrooy -- 8.32 (Zac) G. Teale -- 5 Division 1 A. Akinbiyi -- 20 (DV) P. Hoekstra -- 9 P. Hoekstra -- 8.00 A. Akinbiyi -- (Zac, DV, Bo, Heath) Division 2 D. Nardiello -- 19 (DV) G. Hyde -- 12 D. Nardiello -- 8.05 R. Williams -- 5 (Zac, DV) Division 3 G. Grazioli -- 21 (Zac) G. Strachan -- 15 G. Grazioli -- 8.20 G. Grazioli -- 8 (Heath) Conference L. Owusu -- 20 (Bo, Heath) M. Barlow -- 15 (Zac) S. Prior -- 8.27 R. Baptiste -- 8 Current points for part 3 : 1. Zac -- 10 pts 2. DV -- 6 pts 2. Heath -- 6 pts 4. boville -- 4 pts
With 4 rounds remaining of the season I have updated the site again. http://users2.ev1.net/~chkemp/ccnet/cmleague/ But only links on the frontpage can be trusted to be up as I have moved the update to a new server. Updated at the new site is all textfiles. To get hold of your team-textfile just open a standings textfile and edit the name of that txt file to your team textfile name. Example: change division3.txt to plymouth.txt, carlisle.txt, cheltenham.txt or whatever team you want a fresh textfile for. also for the division 3 playoff race - a standings screen can be found in info 3 (in addition to the d3 textfile) and also you can find the remaining 4 rounds fixtures linked from the division3 link. I will see about fixing the rest of the site as we go along.
http://home.trollnet.no/havard/cmleague/txt/txt.html http://home.trollnet.no/havard/cmleague/jpg/jpg.html Two links with seperate links for what is located on my server and not Castor's server - one for textfiles and one for screens.
The season kind of stopped up, but I hope we can get it finished today. I'm planning on being in the chat EARLY, and if you want to make changes to your team you are hereby warned, because the season will be finished today. AND with only 2 rounds remaining of the regular season all managers have something to fight for. Well I guess all but me that has already won D3 After the next round one team will probably not have hope to be in it anymore as the top game in D3 sees #10 Plymouth face #9 Cheltenham. Both probably will have to win to stay on pace with #7 Scunthorpe that plays #22 Halifax. 1. Mansfield -- 92 2. Dag & Red -- 81 3. Swindon -- 73 ---------------------------- 4. Luton -- 73 5. Macclesfield -- 71 6. Brighton -- 70 7. Scunthorpe -- 69 ---------------------------- 8. Burnley -- 68 9. Cheltenham -- 67 10. Plymouth -- 66 Manager of the month for April: D3: Zac D (Cheltenham) D2: DVauthrin (Swansea) D1: not Pued In D2 both Swansea and Carlisle have secured the playoff spots and only fight for position (Carlisle can still get direct promotion but highly unlikely) After another win in D1 Pued (2-0 over Stockport) can still save the season. 20. Cardiff -- 54 21. Stockport -- 52 --------------------------- 22. Lincoln -- 48 so with 6 pts remaining to fight for the fat lady is still prevented from singing. Next match is away vs Crewe, while Lincoln plays Preston at home in the last game. I will be in the chat in about an hour or two.
http://home.trollnet.no/havard/cmleague/txt/txt.html http://home.trollnet.no/havard/cmleague/jpg/jpg.html with the season over - for most - here is an update - mostly for the playoff teams (all 10 info screens is for the playoff teams, 2 each) The 2nd game in round 1 will probably be played in chat late, late today (don't know when I will be back from work) or tomorrow. If you can't be in the chat then, and have changes/instructions post them here.
They have been playing that strange 3-5-2 system of yours where you tell them where to pass. Who knew that all they needed was a little instructions or maybe just being limited in their options
