ClutchFans Game Thread: Pacers @ Rockets 12/23/2003

What's the point? How many time did they mis-communicate to him? THEY ONLY PASSED HIM THE DAMN BALL IN SET PLAYS! And in limited times only. LOL!

 

I think the guards already know some chinese. Every game it seems like they're saying to him: Move out of the way Yao, let me show this team my mad dribbling skillz.

 

Or: "Your quota's up for the night. Just pass the ball and be the Great Wall from now on".

 

Understood. But, Yao did shoot 8 FTs, so he did get the ball more than some would think.

Also, Steve's Assist/to ratio is embarassing, but he did have 4 steals tonight. He was not the reason that we lost.

 

3/4 of those fts were people grabbing and holding on to him without the ball. foster held him on a lobb that would have surely been a deuce and pollard twice holding him.

 

Yao is a scared little boy on his first day of school.

There is no way Francis could get any assists last night with players like Yao and Cato inside, and Mobley and Taylor not hitting anything on top of that.

Steve made some great passes in the first half that left the defense in disarray and found the open man many times to only see bricks falling.

Steve needs to demand a trade. He's playing with a bunch of chumps !

 

You need better glasses if you saw Yao get any kind of position.
He spent more time on the floor, on his ass then in the paint last night.

If Yao is 3 for 4 it's because he can't get position and doesn't know what the hell to do when he gets the ball. He got plenty of touches, certainly enough to get 15 shots off if he wanted to.

You need to invite acrophobia98 and Xenogears. You can have a jack off party in front of a Yao pic.

 

I will admit though, that defensively Yao makes things a lot harder for the opposing team and has a big impact, but his defensive rebounding still blows when they miss shots.

If only bball was like hockey. You could take Yao and Cato out on every offensive set and put them back in on defense.

 

From what I saw, Indiana took advantage of MoT's poor shooting. MoT's defender went over to double team Yao. That's why he didn't get the ball much because he was double teamed all night long.

 

If your definition of street ball is a team that can't hit open jump shots, then yeah it was street ball. Other than that, there was a lot of passing and a lot of missed OPEN shots. So blaming street ball on this game is just silly.

 

Yep.

Players that feel the "need" to dribble will most of the time get their shot blocked or stripped from their hands. It's ingrained in their brains. MoT, Mobley, Francis, Cato...Even Yao sometimes. If they keep the ball above their heads, they will most likely not get their shot blocked. But it's harder to do so on their part, so they they refrain.

Dribbling is a disease in todays NBA.

 

How distasteful. Really, why don't you save this kind of garbage for the ESPN boards?

 

jojo,

If history repeats itself, either acrophobia98 or Xenogears will come up with a mom joke. Then, you will be banned by Clutch.


Shrimpie

 

is was dissapointing to watch, we missed like 10 layups, 20 open shots, 10 freethrows, and Yao was playing so soft he was practicaly living on the floor cause he kepy getting knocked down

 

This is the team's main offensive problem, and it is not just Yao related. In the past few years they only knew isolation. Now, they know isolation and set plays. So, they wil try and try and try to get their set play to work. When it doesn't they reverse to isolation plays. A good team will start a set play and if an option is taken away will continue to trust their teammates, swing the ball, MOVE without the ball, etc.

 

If you think Yao is an offensive liability, you're crazy, dude.

 

he would post up many times but never get the ball, and this discouraged him from post up more b/c he relized he aint gonna get the ball because of our selfish players. So what does he do, go set pics for the guards. I BET SOMEONE ELSE COULD BACK ME UP ON THIS STATEMENT.

 

apart from acrophobia98 or Xenogears, i don't know of anyone who would say Yao Ming ever has good positionning for more then half a second...as soon as the first forearm makes contact with his back he's in shambles...he can't hold his ground for any reasonable amount of time

 

Like many of you, I watched in misery last nite.

Simply stated, A) with Yao unable to consistenly beat "fronting" and free himself in the post, and B) our guards' inability/unwillingness to get him the ball when he is able to get open, defenses relegate us to a jump shooting team playing 5 on 4 defense when Cato is one the floor. Moreover, zones and collapsing defenses have largely stripped our guards of the ability to get to the basket without encountering all kinds of traffic. SA does this the best...not just to us but to everyone!

And so we live or die with the midrange jumpshot and 3 pointers - and right now we're dying. Both A and B must improve or we will continue to wallow. Unfortunately Francis and Mobley bring largely the same skills and we're lacking the true PG/distributor. Just a bad overall combination. After 27 games our team is defining itself - good D and mediocre/poor O. Wouldn't be suprised to see some personnel changes before the trading deadline.

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