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Clemens run support

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by arkoe, Apr 14, 2005.

  1. arkoe

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    I don't get it, but for some reason it seems that the Astros get Clemens really shoddy run support. In his first two games, he only has had three runs scored, two of those he drove in himself.

    It seemed like last year there were several games where Clemens would have gotten wins if we only get one more run for him.

    Has anyone else noticed this? Am I making this up, can anybody find me numbers for run support? I don't know where to look i t up...
     
  2. NJRocket

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    Clemens seemed to be in a lot of 2-1 or 3-2 games last yr....and the trend is continuing this year. He could very well be in for a RJ -like year of 2004 where he goes around 15-15 with a sub 3 ERA.
     
  3. Svpernaut

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    It's been two starts.. which isn't exactly enough starts to guess how many wins/loses he'll have because of lack of run support.
     
  4. bottlerocket

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    Man for the Rocket to get wins he is going to have to throw a shut-out for him & Stros to win. Oh waite he did throw one and they still lost.
     
  5. arkoe

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    Maybe I wasn't specific enough, I wanted to know his run support LAST year.

    I realize he's pitched two games so far this year and that it's very early in the season. Yet, there's no reason Roger shouldn't have two wins in two tries.
     
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    Get ready for this year's Randy Johnson!
     
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    When the Astros are out of contention he'll get traded to a contender who can score him some runs.
     
  8. Svpernaut

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    Once again, getting a no decision this early in the season isn't a big deal... if he has 10 by mid season then maybe we should worry. We're having our offensive struggles right now, but it's mainly because we have two automatic outs in the line up right now in Everett and Ausmus... simply put, they are rally killers. We are hitting just fine, just not finding the holes we need to when it counts. It will come... especially when Berkman comes back.
     
  9. arkoe

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    Pitched a shutout through seven today, game's now in extra innings tied. No W for Roger.

    I don't know, it just irks me that we can't get him the win. And you know it pisses off a certain Hall of Famer.
     
  10. wrath_of_khan

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    This is starting to remind of the year Nolan led the league in Ks and ERA only to post a losing record with us...
     
  11. BigM

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    roger has been around too long to be pissed about run support. he understands how baseball works and sometimes it's just not there. obviously he'd like to have it but it's not something that will get to him AT ALL unlike a certain tim redding.

    don't take anything away from how well tim hudson pitched either.
     
  12. bottlerocket

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    The Astros are the only team that can have a(the same) pitcher throw a shutout (twice) and lose.
     
  13. arkoe

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    I'm not saying it's going to affect his pitching, I'm saying he's going to be asking for a trade come the trading deadline.
     
  14. JPM0016

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    Just like he did with the lack of run support last year.
     
  15. A-Train

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    Well, at least the Astros will be able to get a couple of decent prospects for Clemens when they trade him this July...
     
  16. MadMax

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    Watch your head...the sky is falling!!! aaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!

    Did the Braves get "run support" for Hudson last night? Took them 12 innings to score a run, as well. We faced their ace...they faced ONE of ours. We came up short. Both teams blew chances to score earlier in the game. Yet at the end of the night...one of 162...one team's fans will talk about how great their win was last night. And the other team's fans will talk about how....their season is over??? their hometown hero will demand a trade soon???

    Give me a break. It's baseball...a marathon. Remember last season even a little bit???? I do. Most of you hopped on and off the bandwagon all season long.

    p.s. i don't wanna hear any of you guys ever b****ing about fan support in Houston again.
     
  17. RunninRaven

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    According to this link: link

    his run support last season was 4.8 or so. I think that is probably at least middle of the pack, if not a bit above it.
     
  18. msn

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    The Astros have *lost* a no-hitter before! I believe it was one of Don Wilson's, but I'm not sure a remember it correctly. 1-0, five walks.
     
  19. JPM0016

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    Well said Max
     
  20. NJRocket

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    Max....you are making it like those of us who are fed up with the lack of moves/production/etc are rooting against the Astros now. We are simply complaining because we got a taste of the friggin big time last year....and now we are on the path to a .500 season...ok? Therefore, stop pretending like everything with OUR tem is peachy and that things are looking up. I want them to turn it around as much as you....but so far, they have performed WORSE than I expected...and I wasnt expecting much.
     

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