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[Cinema] Public Enemies (Depp + Bale + Mann)

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by percicles, Mar 6, 2009.

  1. percicles

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    Plus that cute French gal who won the Academy Award last Year.

    Perhaps my most anticipated film of the summer.

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    Edit. Michael Mann has directed such classics as Heat, Miami Vice (TV and Film), Collateral, Manhunter, Last of the Mohicans, etc....
     
  2. theogcasey

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    This looks good. I really like Michael Mann's work. The cinematography in all of his films is always identical, but uniquely his alone. I'll be adding this to my "Must see" list.
     
  3. Master Baiter

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    This looks awesome.
     
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  5. percicles

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    Best movie this year, so far. Defenitely Manns best film since Heat. In fact it's like Heat 1933 style. One getaway sequence is on par with Heat's last hiest.

    Be forwarned, this ain't Michael Bay. It's an art film first, ganster film second, a summer popcorn fim third.
     
  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I liked it. Not as much as Heat or Collateral though. And honestly it wasn't anywhere near as good as I thought it would be. I mean maybe finding out Ron signed with LA right after the movie let out had something to do with it....

    Anyways, I probably need to see it again but Ill ask you guys, what exactly made it so great? Depp's performance? I don't know... I didn't feel as connected.

    So Bale kills himself eventually... shouldn't they have shown that his character was flawed? Had problems? Something? Whatev
     
  7. percicles

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    Wait. Ron Ron signed with the Lakers?!?!? F-cking hell!!!
     
  8. BigM

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    It wasn't as good as all the hype....

    Definitely worth seeing, for Mann movies it's about on par with collateral but nowhere close to Heat. Acting was good, but the story dragged at times...
     
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    I plan to see it, big JD fan but Bale has become a bit of a Tom Cruise for me, just cant stand the guy, so it always puts me off watching his movies.
     
  10. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    In the older thread Hamza gives me an "umm" at me talking about Cornell in the Mann movie. Its in the trailer and the movie. I am not sure what the "umm" was about?
     
  11. Faos

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    I saw it yesterday. Good flick, but no way will this be one of the best movies of the year by the end of the year. I don't think they did a good job with character development, I blame Mann on that. Depp and Bale aren't to blame.

    It must have been really easy to break out of prisons back in the day.

    I was intrigued when I got home and read up on the real life gangsters. The movie seemed to be pretty accuarate for the most part. Although Dillinger did NOT say anything before he died. I guess they put that in there for the women and it worked because I heard some sobs.

    I thought the funniest part was the killing of Baby Face Nelson. He gave an oscar worthy and hilarious death scene. A classic "going down in a blaze of glory".
     
  12. Faos

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    He didn't kill himself in real life until 1960. A lot could have happened in those 25+ years.
     
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    It was decent, but didn't live up to expectations.

    Two parts were great:

    The action scenes were very well shot and very believable.

    Depp's acting job was excellent. (Bale did pretty good, too.)

    I'd give it 2.5 Stars. I thought that Mann missed a lot of opportunity to let the viewer get to know the gang.
     
  14. Faos

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    Some "facts?" on Melvin Purvis that differ from the movie:

    Apparently he didn't gun down Pretty Boy Floyd as was depicted in the movie:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvin_Purvis
    However, at least one of Purvis' official accounts of his exploits was later called into question. The account of the death of Pretty Boy Floyd, which indicated that Purvis and his agents had killed Floyd with no assistance from local law enforcement was later discounted by the local East Liverpool, Ohio officer Chester Smith, who many agree shot Floyd first. Smith further stated that Purvis and his agents never fired until after Floyd had been questioned by Purvis, at which point Purvis ordered Agent Herman Hollis to shoot Floyd, who was by then lying on the ground.

    That claim was discounted later by FBI Agent Winfred E. Hopton, who claimed in a 1976 Time magazine article that local law enforcement did not arrive until after Floyd had died. However, on that point, Hopton's claim seems weak, as local authorities all agreed that Chester Smith did in fact shoot Floyd. Neither claim has been clearly proven one way or the other. Purvis resigned from the FBI in 1935 and afterward practiced law.[8] In 1937 he became engaged to the actress Janice Jarratt, but they never married.[9][10][11] He later would marry and have three sons.[5] He bought a radio station in Florence, South Carolina, and during World War II he served in the army as a colonel.

    And on his suicide:

    On February 29, 1960, while at his home in Florence, South Carolina, Melvin Purvis died from a shot fired from the gun given to him by fellow agents when he resigned from the FBI (the popular folk anecdote that the gun that killed Purvis was in fact the same gun that he used to take down Dillinger is apocryphal). The FBI investigated the shooting and labeled it a suicide. This was supported by a statement from his doctor, who said he had been depressed over his ill health.[12][13] It was later determined that Purvis may have shot himself accidentally while trying to extract a tracer bullet jammed in the pistol.[5] He was 56 years old.
     
  15. Xcellerator

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    I liked the movie very much.
    I'd give it 8.5/10. :D
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    But in the movie it was 1 right? So why not get into that? Maybe I am crazy and it wasn't 1yr? Real life doesn't matter if the movie says 1yr. Not for the purpose of Public Enemies.
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I agree on the character development problems. There wasn't much emotional attachment. Heat and Collateral had excellent character development. Miami Vice and PE are just lacking. Either Mann did it on purpose or he fell off.
     
  18. BigM

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    I really don't think the movie said 1 year later, I'm pretty sure they went with the real story, though someone else would have to confirm.
     
  19. Miguel

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    It said he resigned from the FBI one year later. And then took his life in 1960.
     
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    I like the sound of that...
     

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