Chron: Robertson among those cut....

I don't see why this is such a tough pill to swallow. Other than the gaudy run-support, err... "Wins", Robertson didn't show a hell of a lot last year. And his stuff is nothing to be amazed at, so there's really no room for improvement.

 

I bet the Astros are also shopping Saarloos and Fernandez (assumiing he does not make the final cut). I bet that Fernandez may be set free rather than re-assigned back to NO.

Article implies that the starting rotation in NO will be

Jeriome Robertson
Carlos Hernandez
Kirk Sarloos
Taylor Buchholz
Chad Qualls

Doug Sessions also started some last year for the Zephyrs. And at end of the season, Rodrigo Rosario may be ready for his come back.

 

Not factual. He pitched well in his wins (and terribly in his losses).

 

hey....i thought robertson won games last year because of his run support but thats just not true. in each of his wins he gave up less than 3 earned runs. it's just that in his losses he was completely horrible. kind of like a poor man's matt clement in that sense. i think his ERA in his wins was like around 2.10 and in his losses it was like 12.00+.

just had to dispell that myth.

 

You have to also look at who Robertson pitched well against. He was 4-0 with a 2.42 ERA against the Reds, 2-0 with a 0.79 ERA against the Rangers. So, take away two of the worst teams in the major leagues and he was a .500 pitcher with an ERA of around 6.05.

 

ok so he pitched well against one of the best hitting teams in baseball and against a team that plays in one of the highest scoring stadiums in the league.

 

That must mean he sucked against bad teams.



No matter how you slice it, Robertson isn't that great.

What's ironic is that Redding had the lowest run support in the league, while Roberson had the highest, if not highest then close to it.

 

not a big deal. i'd like to go to some ranger's games and tell their fans we got a 15-game winner in triple a though.

 

that is one heck of a AAA rotation!

 

Am I the only one here who thinks the word 'cut' is sorely misused in that headline? When I saw that, the first thing that went through my head was "What the crap?! The released him?"

'Cut' and 'demoted' have two completely different meanings.

 

completely agree...when i read the title on the chronicle's website this morning, i was initially upset. was relieved to read that "cut" didn't mean "cut."

 

Actually, it's still not a myth. Because you didn't consider his no-decisions. Which he had an ERA of over 8.

You're right that Robertson is kind of similar to Clement or Andy Pettite, where he tends to either get rocked or pitch quite well. But the guy's record is definitely more sparkling than his pitching indicates. Because he got bailed by his offense a few times when he pitched badlly. And he always got the win when he pitched well(hardly given considering what Redding got).

 

How many options do these guys have left?

 

I thought the same thing.

Robertson and Saarloos are still firmly on the trading block. The move back to AAA was going to happen no matter what. It doesn't affect any possible deal as they are both stil lyoung, relatively unexperienced, but talented starters. There are many teams that are looking for these types. The Rangers come to mind first and foremost.

 

Or the Astros in a couple of years.

 

I don't look at this in terms of how well he did last year. If you were in his situation at the end of the year last year, you would have believed 100% that you would be back in the rotation for at least the beginning of the next year. The fluke of the Astros getting two dominant pitchers to fill a monster rotation is what makes this a tough pill for Robertson to swallow.

No worries though .. I think he'll have a great year in AAA and he can fill in when someone goes down.

 

Not sure how many, exactly, but this hasn't been mentioned by management as being a concern.

No reason to trade pitching now, let 'em both pitch well in AAA (no reason they can't), wait until May when guys have had a chance to get hurt or be ineffective. Then see who we can pillage.

"Desperation is a stinky cologne."

 

I think the idea is to trade Robertson before the rest of the league finds out that he sucks. There's a good chance that he goes to AAA and sucks it up.

Other teams will look at his record and think that he's a stud, without realizing that his fastball is clocked no higher than 85 mph.