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[Chron]At 0-4, Rockets face possibility that they are what they record says they are.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Ubiquitin, Nov 4, 2010.

  1. Ubiquitin

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    http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2010/11/at_04_rockets_face_possibility.html

    At 0-4, Rockets face possibility that they are what they record says they are.

    Until Wednesday, the Rockets winless status seemed like a fluke. Not anymore.

    It had seemed like they lost those first three games because of a bad schedule, bad breaks and a few bad moments. The defense (other than a horrible showing against the Warriors) was inconsistent, indicating it had a chance to be good. Yao Ming was making steady progress. The Rockets were just a few plays away from a few wins.

    Now that the losses have mounted, however, the shortcomings seem real. The record begins with a zero for a reason.

    The Rockets fell apart down the stretch again, and increasingly, they look like one of those teams that talks about how close they are to turning it around, ignoring that it is the NBA and everybody has talent and a chance to turn it around if not for a few shortcomings they cannot overcome.

    Aaron Brooks is a gifted offensive player but showed again on Wednesday a lack of poise when things go badly, especially when he is not getting the calls. That was understandable last season. Not this season.

    Luis Scola is off to a terrific start but still won't close out to a shooter. Shane Battier's offense has shrunk to negligible, with just six field goals in four games. Yao does not move well enough yet to control the boards or defend one-on-one without fouling. Kyle Lowry is not the force off the dribble he was last season and is now taking far too many jumpers, making just 21.4 percent of his shots this season.

    Yao said after Saturday's loss that the problems were "everything." He seems to be right, leaving the Rockets with no quick fix.

    Rick Adelman moved up Jordan Hill, making him Yao's primary backup. Hill made some terrible mistakes but also brought difference-making energy, with the playing time offering a chance to grow from those mistakes. Chase Budinger played 26 minutes and could continue to play more than Battier if he plays well enough. Adelman might need to find more time for Courtney Lee, even mixing him as a point on some nights.

    None of those changes, however, will qualify as solutions.

    Brooks made a good point when he said the Rockets don't seem to be playing as hard as last season. There was an urgency about them last season that even with a winless record, they don't seem to have regained.

    "I'm very surprised," Brooks said. "I don't think we're playing exactly hard enough. I think we played a lot harder last year when we were down and out and people thought we weren't going to do anything. We played a lot harder. We have to bring that."

    That would be a good place to start. There was some of that in the opener against the Lakers. They need to attack a game with that attitude and fight for a win that way from start to finish.

    This defense cannot be this bad in every fourth quarter and be considered a good defense, no matter what happens in the first half. But it can be better than this. The Rockets can run their offense most of the game well enough to run it well down the stretch. They have enough depth to put together five guys that will grab defensive rebounds and will be run the offense quickly and effectively even in the fourth quarter.

    Do those doable things, and they can win a game. Four losses into the season, however, they have a long way to go to look like a team able to win very many.


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    Rick Adelman saved Yao's final minutes for the game's decisive stretch run. Adelman returned Yao to the game with 6:25 left. He pulled him with two minutes still to play, going back to Jordan Hill who could not get off the bench a week earlier.

    "I'm disappointed, but I know why I got taken out," Yao said. He had to come out because he could not control the boards or move quickly enough defensively on the Hornets pick-and-rolls.

    Yao is getting closer offensively. He had 15 points in his 22 ½ minutes, but he rarely seems comfortable.

    "I know what is my strengths," Yao said. "I know what is my weakness. I think I know how to help this team. From missing the whole year last year, this team has new teammates and a new style of play. I try to fit in there. That's confusing."


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    Kevin Garnett's response to Charlie Villanueva's tweet-down was that he did not say that Villanueva looks like "a cancer patient" at all.

    "I would never be insensitive to the brave struggle that cancer patients endure," Garnett said in a statement. "I have lost loved ones to this deadly disease and have a family member currently undergoing treatment. I would never say anything that distasteful."

    At least he recognized that what he is accused of saying was distasteful.

    He claimed to have actually said that Villanueva "is cancerous to his team and our league."

    Whoever made that up is a horrible trash talker.

    That sounds like the interpreter they had in China who somehow had Yao saying "Indeed" before every sentence and even dropped in a "by-the-by."
     
  2. AvgJoe

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    Lack of defense is what's killing us. Didn't see any double team, or full court pressure.
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    Our D-league roster is what is killing us.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Not at all.......

    It is the mix we are putting on the floor that is killling us, not the roster, the mix of who plays with whom.

    DD
     
  5. pge71188

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    I want WINNERS!!! I want to WIN!! :mad:
     
  6. Don FakeFan

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    I said it all along. Rockets is a lottery team. This team simply do not have qualities players.
     
  7. landryfans

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    KG is a great player, and a punk.
     
  8. Angkor Wat

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    This is what happens when you start to over hype a team (mainly rockets fans). All that talk about being contenders, too deep, ect. Now the BBS explodes because we set the expectations way too high. At the end of the day, its a superstar driven league and we're one player short of being elite. Either that or about 8 or 9 minutes short of Yao.
     
  9. Pieman2005

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    I feel the same way. I felt 0-3 didn't represent our team. Now I'm feeling like we can go 0-6..
     
  10. nodstonothing

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    Exactly right. People overrated this team all summer. Kevin Martin is not a superstar, he was a one-dimensional scorer on a bad team who has never played defense. Now you're seeing that. Aaron Brooks was a one-dimensional scorer on a non-playoff team last year that couldn't play defense. Now you're seeing that. Battier is declining quickly and is a major negative on offense. Jordan Hill has a very low basketball IQ and makes tons of mistakes. Yao is a part-time player. Luis Scola can't guard a power forward who has any sort of jumpshot because he never wants to go out and guard him.

    The team is what it is. I never thought they'd be very good, maybe a 7th or 8th seed, and so far they're exactly what I thought.

    The people blaming Adelman are pretty silly. This is the same coach we've had for years. I don't recall people letting the players off and blaming schemes in the past. The reason was because we had better defenders to execute those schemes, like a better Battier, Artest, Ariza, healthy Yao, etc. That was enough to make up for Brooks and Scola's defensive lapses. Now we have a starting lineup where three of the five are below average defenders and the other two are, at best, average. You can't hide anybody's defensive flaws in a lineup like that.
     
  11. abc2007

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    A closer! If you still cannot see what the rockets really need, you are a blind homer or lack of basic basketball knowlede.
     
  12. Manny Ramirez

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    I have the perfect solution! We bring back Jeff Van Gundy and make him a "co-head coach". When the Rockets have the ball on offense, Adelman will stand up and yell the plays to Brooks and Martin to run. As soon as the Rockets have to go on defense, Adelman will sit down and then Van Gundy will stand up and yell what defense for them to run. Problems solved and the Rockets rip off a winning streak of 35 games to set the all-time NBA record.
     
  13. AvgJoe

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    It is surprising to me that actually Brad Miller once said "Elston [Turner] is running the defense, just like he did back then, and Rick is in charge of the offense." Our head coach doesn't run defense. He leaves it to Assistant Coach to do it. I understand you should have your focus, but to see it was separated so clearly between the two is shocking.
     
  14. Mr Chuck Norris

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    Bottom line this team is just not good, Brooks is mo Williams, Martin is a volume scorer and nothing else his ft's keep us in games, barrier is the worst starter in the leauge, he's playing Ryan Bowenesque this year, scola does what he does interior scoring and rebounding, and Yao is never going to get a rhythm getting subbed out all the time. It hit me when we started clamoring for Jordan Hill... JORDAN HILL think about it We are prasing JORDAN HILL for rebounding... Really? We have to start rebuilding the window is shut we have to start to realize. We need a star we need to draft a star we
     
  15. conundrum

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    battier is washed up, the lee trade was an epic fail, we trade our best 2/3 defender when we already have the worse defensive backcourt in the entire league. we had no need for lee, why was he brought here? because the staff figures martin will break down eventually? why would we gamble of someone the staff does not feel can remain healthy, if they felt he could remain healthy all season, then when would lee really play? lowry played great alongside brooks, and could back up martin or brooks, then bring in chase to play the 2 or 3 when brooks and martin were out. this 12 player deep roster sucks. i bet every night when trevor, landry and mcgrady take a look at the boxscore they get a good laugh.
     
  16. across110thstreet

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    i am prepared to go 0-5 if that's what it takes for a turnaround.

    I'll take losses to the Hornets, Spurs, and Lakers.

    I'll take a back to back loss against GSW. (without yao)

    but after San Antonio, there are no excuses.

    we will be playing catch-up all year long if we don't right this ship by December.
     
  17. trueroxfan

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    I agree, I think it may in fact be time to move Brooks to the bench. He's a fantastically gifted offensive player, but we really need that d to start the game and with brooks, martin, and scola in the starting line up, our defense is just not good enough.

    However, what is strange is that we are winning the first quarter most of the time, we are winning the second as well. It's the third and the 4th that we need to work on. I don't know how we should deal with Yao, but I agree that our current lineups are just not balanced enough.

    btw we can still go 78-4 so stop whining people 4 games shows us that we have a lot of work, but we've seen what this team is capable of, just give it some time. we'll beat the spurs sat. i can guarantee that.
     
  18. trueroxfan

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    maybe they gave up on trevor, but i would have liked to see him play with Yao, i think he would have settled down this year, as he did at the end of last year. courtney jacks up way too many jumpers, even though he is supposed to be a better shooter than ariza.
     
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    Yeah great point on the Courtney lee trade, really what was the point in that, I mean yeah I wanted ariza out of here but why for courtney lee what a waste, Patrick Patterson as well it's like WTF do we strive for mediocrity. I'm tired of SOLID players I want to see players that can excel on the court and make me say wow. We haven't had one like that since Tracy McGrady. I wish that Amare stoudimre trade would have went through last year because he's leading NY to wins and playing out of his mind. Face it our players are not that good
     
  20. DreamShook

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    This is so depressing... When the Rockets aren't competing it's tough for me to watch Basketball in general. Rockets are destroying my fanhood.
     

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