China Violating UN Embargo, Providing Arms & Training to Sudan Army

LOL - arms embargos are a joke...

DD

 

Not saying if its right or wrong for countries to export weapons to conflicted nations but are my the only one who is confused by this?

If the embargo was imposed in 2005, and the planes shipped in 2003 was it illegal?

 

That seems a little confusing but they further mention:
[rquoter]Citing two confidential sources, the broadcaster said China was training pilots to fly Chinese Fantan fighter jets, and that Sudan had imported several fighter trainers called K8s two years ago.
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It sounds like even though the planes might've been shipped in 2003 the PRC has been training and arming the pilots after 2005.

 

Maybe China was simply offering courses to the Sudanese on "managing defence in a centralized and collective training" like the Brits did in a similar fashion in the same period?

If BBC doesn't stand for British BullCrap, I don't know what it is.

 

Part of a weapons export deal is the training of users and service of the said weapons systems for a certain period of time. Therefore, China has a contractual obligation to fulfill to the Sudanese government. It is hence hardly surprising that they are training the Sudanese.

One might argue whether an UN arms embargo nullifies this contractual obligation, but taken directly, China is not violating the embargo, even if assuming these un-cited "sources" are correct.

 

Of course, in typical BBC bullsh1ting fashion, they tried to spin Dong Feng export as in violation of the arms embargo. Here is a picture of the ancient model of crap Dong Feng lorry Sudan likely to have ordered:



Of course BBC tried to spin that as a weapons system, even though itself stated:

 

I'm sure that you don't really care, and just want another chance to feel like the west is out to get your poor beloved innocent China, but the USA and European countries embargo the sale of American or European trucks and truck parts of the same type as military goods.

Heavy transport trucks the world over were considered military goods before it reflected unfavorably on China, and they will continue to be military goods long after. But go ahead b**** and moan about how unfairly China is treated. I expect nothing less but an all out frontal assault in retaliation by the worker drones whenever Sam Fisher kicks the Chinese fire ant nest.

 

By far the predominant use of trucks ANYWHERE in the world is civilian. If you want to classify them as military, this is your own goddam problem.

Dragging China into a non-starter "issue" is nothing more than another repeated attempt by a couple of card carrying anti-China/anti-Chinese morons including not only Sammy Fisher, but also yourself, into the latest attempt to beanbag China.

Do yourself a favour and actually go google what a Dong Feng military truck looks like.

But all that aside, you know what else is a weapon? A fork. That's down right dangerous. Omar al-Bashir could be, ahem... encouraging the Janjaweed to stab rebels with them. China has exported forks to Sudan. Knives too.

My god, they are violating the arms embargo more than you and I thought.

 

Exactly what I expected, thanks.

 

And your response is exactly what I expected too. Absolutely no counter-argument. Hardly surprising.

That's just hilarious Sammy. Perhaps you'd care to define "nonintervention."

The Chinese government's policy is separating trade from politics. So far they've done a better job at it than anybody.

China and the US don't always see eye to eye, didn't affect trade except when it is a trade related issue. Relationships with Japan has often been frosty, but trade is booming. Taiwan is threatened with use of force if it declares independence, the mainland is Taiwan's biggest trade partner and Taiwanese business people get favourable policies. And that is pretty much true in their dealings with everybody in the business world China has an interest trading with.

But nooooooo, you just want to focus on the likes of Sudan, Zimbabwe, Iran, Myanmar don't ya?

And those trucks? China sold them a bunch of trucks, which do not violate the arms embargo. What Sudan does with them is unfortunately nobody's business.

 

I can't believe China is selling Sudan Dongfeng Lorries -- that is shameful.


END THE GENOCIDE

 

What is it that they said about unproven allegations again? Oh yeah, worthless.

And most of Sudan's oils going to China is hardly a surprise either. The west is after all, trying to put sanctions on the country.

I agree. The senseless genocide of your brain cells has been done ever since you were born. Their population is decreasing at an alarming rate.

It has to stop. Stop the genocide!

 

Clap clap Sammy, you've sunk to a new low. And here I thought it was impossible.

Nobody has your moronic ass gone totally off topic... again, you've started using biased trash op ed pieces as your proof.

Want to venture to guess the number of Chinese people in Zambia? Not only is it ignorable, the majority of those there are also short term. Got a construction project there? When it's done they pack their bags and go home.

 

DANGER

DANGER

DANGER

 

KingCheetah and his moronic picture posting struck again.

What better way to hide your embarrassing lack of argument than posting a silly little picture.

 

Those Darfur rebels shouldn't have violated a ceasefire and should've accepted the peace deals brokered by the international community and offered to them by Khartoum. The Christians in the south did and there are no more real probelms there.