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[Chicago Sun-Times] Rose Wants Legacy To Include Clutch Play

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SidDaKid, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. SidDaKid

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    Derrick Rose to me represents a champion. He will be a champion.
     
  2. SPF35

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    love that mentality, in a day of pointing fingers, wanting more from management, coaches to stop screaming at them, finding other stars to take more pressure off you here is a guy who mentions the city relies on him and the fans trust in him is large and holds himself accountable entirely(a lot of players say it, you can tell he means it)
     
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    Not going to be a champion this year.
     
  4. Yung-T

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    "You have your best player, and he has the opportunity to take the lead"

    "I think of my legacy. I want people to think of me as a clutch player, someone that always came through a majority of the time when they were on the court."

    I admire his motivation, but that's exactly how it looked vs. Miami and it killed them. Instead of passing it to a wide open teammate he had tunnel vision and said "I GOTTA come through on this one and make the basket, everyone will love it and respect me." to himself. This can be a dangerous attitude if he jumps on the Rose hype and thinks he has to do everything on the court andalways score the crucial points and gamewinners. It can kill your team in the long term.
     
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    Yeah I was really confused as to why he shot that flanked by 2 defenders when Rip Hamilton was wide open.
     
  6. jayhow92

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    That's great and all, but hopefully this won't backfire.
     
  7. durvasa

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    I prefer the Bill Russell-style championship mentality to this Kobe-type mentality. Players should worry about what's best for the team, not what's best for their individual glory/legacy.

    I agree with others, its great that Rose is willing to shoulder responsibility in a loss, but just make the right play during the game. He had Rip wide open in the corner, and instead of making the right play he was thinking, "Oh, crap, I need to make up for those 2 missed free throws so I can be the hero!"
     
  8. T-macsterful1

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    didn't even notice that. He also could did a drop pass no to noah who was around the rim by himself along with boozer I think.. If boozer got the game winner that woulda shut his kid up...
     
  9. Rocketman95

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    I'd say that Kobe's done what's best for the team what with his numerous championships. He's no Lebron, that's for sure. While Lebron was out announcing his decision to ridiculous fanfare, Kobe was celebrating another ring when he could've gone the other route and had ESPN and the rest of the sports media obsessing over what he was going to do in free agency.
     
  10. Icehouse

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    Huh? Kobe did what was best for the team by sacrificing his game during the 3-peat. Then he got tired of being little brother and shot his team out of a ring in 2004. How was that best for the team? Then he wanted to prove he could be the man and had no issues with a dominant center being shipped off so he could prove it. How was that best for the team? Then he decided not to shoot in the final game of a series? How was that best for the team? Then he demanded to be traded when he finally realized that you do need help to win. The kind of help he had before Shaq got traded. How is that best for the team? Then he led his team to 2 more titles and proved that he could be the man. The goal wasn't winning, as they were doing that with Shaq. The goal was I'm the man while we are winning. Let's not recreate history to act like he didn't go about things in a very selfish manner.

    You are right that he is no LeBron, as far as being selfish. LeBron never demanded a trade. LeBron doesn't seem to have an issue with sharing the spotlight with other great players either. LeBron took a paycut for the sake of the team as well.
     
  11. t_mac1

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    Rose hasn't improved at all individually from last year, which he should since he was punked out of the ECF.

    He still jacks up tons of 3s, and can't make them. He still doesn't get his teammates involved as much, and his teammates are much better now.
     
  12. Rocketman95

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    LOL, the only reason Kobe worked his ass off to become the best in the game was to selfishly win a title. That's rich.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    How do you "selfishly" win a title in a team sport?

    I don't like Kobe as the next guy, but really???
     
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    Has anybody noticed this contradictory statement?

    Did you mean always or a majority of the time, Derrick?
     
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    Lebron unselfishly standing in the corner scared to touch the ball = best for the team.
     
  16. durvasa

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    Kobe is a championship player. But I also think the desire to be the best individual player rather than winning is what motivates him to be a great competitor. It works for him; I'm just saying I prefer the latter type that puts winning above all else.
     
  17. Icehouse

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    I don't believe anyone ever said that. But having a championship roster and wanting another dominant player gone so you can be the man is not unselfish in any way. The Lakers were winning.
     
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    in other words, exactly the way kobe handled his previous free agency?

    when he also made his team trade the best center in the game before he would sign with them? a few years before he spent all summer demanding trades, only refusing one they came up with because the team he went to wouldn't be good enough for him to win on (trying to stack your team kobe? for shame). yeah, he's really always been about the team. apparently we're to the point that the lebron hate is so strong that we're willing to deify any behavior by anybody as long as they aren't lebron.
     
  19. t_mac1

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    I think many people idealize things way too much on this board. There are many ways to go about winning, or doing things in general. As long as you reach the end result, it doesn't matter how you get there.

    Kobe Bryant and Derek Jeter are the two winningest players in their sports. They go about their winnings way at the two different extremes. Same result.
     
  20. durvasa

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    As a fan, I completely disagree. My admiration depends more on approach than results.
     
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