According to Gene and Jim he announced tonight at the game that he will play "a couple of minutes and walk off the court under his own power" on wednesday night against Vancouver. Sorry if this is old news I've been a little out of the loop lately. i'm jacked to see Charles out there. i just hope he doesn't get rejected by the rim going for a dunk . . . ------------------
I hope he plays good, he looked mighty big and out of shape last week when I saw him. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
I just hope he does walk off the court under his own power. Let's all hope he doesn't pull a Jerry Rice and hurt his knee in his first game back... ------------------ I have a dream.........his name's Hakeem.
He's s'fat I wonder if he'll be able to walk on the court under his own power. CBFC ------------------
I will honestly say it... Charles don't come back to play a couple of minutes. Let us remember you as a player, not as a side show. You're ending in Philly was premature, but it was memorable. Who knows you may come in and play a great couple of minutes, but who cares. Chuck don't become a one time circus act. ------------------
Dreamer, Or a Ronaldo, for that matter. I feel bad for the guy. He's out 6 months and hurts his knee again after just six minutes. ------------------ Nederland 2000 NBA+stupidity=Brand ROY NBA+common sense=Franchise MVP Houston Rockets Space Center- Not just another ClutchCity.NET clone
I have some alphabets behind my name and work in the medical field (actually I don't work in a field, farmers, surveyors, gophers, and cowboys do that, never could understand that phrase!!!!!). Recovery has so many factors, not the least of which is the PATIENCE of the PATIENTS!!!! Realistically, the history of site trauma in the past, the type of intervention, the skill of the surgeon, the expecations of the patient, the length and quality of rehabilitation, and the reduced stresses following initial recovery and resumptionof play makes up the "chance" of recovery. My estimation after all things considered in this (admittedly) brief review: Full Recovery = nil (0%) chance Partial Recovery (with 80% ability/effectiveness) = 50% chance Partial Recovery )with 60-70% ability/effectiveness = 75% chance Poor Recovery (essentially just a shadow of himself inperformance) = 25% But remeber the negative effects of being a strong willed, hard-headed, "win at all costs" athlete like Ronaldo, is that he comes back too soon ,overestimates his compensation to injury and plays "knock-on fulltilt boogie" from the first second back Thus reinjuring or hurt again and again. The positive effects of that same person's profile is that: if he wants to play ever again, and he learns to rehab as diligently and properly as he would if he was practicing for a championship tournament, then he may make it back. Also,his physical abilities and talent are so exceptional that even at 60 to 70% he still will be able to outperform others in his own above average way in an extended career. Basically, he can play less vigorously and less stressfully (less power moves laterally, less agressive ground attacks/ball tackles) and of course accept the limitatioons of his body(less minutes, strict stretching preamble,etc) but he will be able to play the game he loves. Ask Mark Messier, Thurmon Thomas, Jerry Rice, etc... ------------------ [This message has been edited by popeye (edited April 14, 2000).]
Ace Was it you who asked me last night to look into the Ronaldo injury, and give a patellar injury (Barkley) post on it? If so, I went to the euro soccer sites and read about Ronaldo's most recent injury. I thought it was a minor tear to the patellar tendon but, he injured this same tendon several times mildly throughout his career and suffered pain (probably "grit floaters", pcs of calcified cart and other fragments like most athletes who over-extend) in his knees most of his sports-life. The last major injury was to the same knee on November 21, 1999. That would be about 20-21 weeks ago. That sounds like a less than adequate recovery for a patellar rupture for a guy who: has had chronic "knee problems" before, puts such an enormous amount of stress on his knees, and more importantly stresses his quadriceps femoris (thigh muscle that is on the proximal end of the structure) on literally every move he makes. He was supposed to have torn the distal portion of the patellar ligament where it attaches to the tibial tuberosity (the little bony prominence at the top and front of the leg,just under the knee). He recovers, gets approval by his surgeon and the team medical people. Works out for a couple of weeks publicly, then gets into his first game, and slumps to the ground in agony while power mopving to laterally. Athletes like him put such an enormous amount of stress on their bodies and some sports have specific areas that take an unprecedented amount of abuse. Knees are notorious for failing the test of human effort. Believe me I know. They now have a couple of reattachment surgical alternatives for Ronaldo. 1. Graft it back, adding some "bulk" to the existing structure by using some donor tissue from some other area in his body (he has lots of available candidate sites). Problem: long recovery time and it appears they may have done this previously and you saw the results of that. Actually I would probably blame the latest result on: (a) poor assessment of the injury in an attempt to get him back on the feild, (b) the athelete's adamant desire to get back on the field, (c) an overall rehab program that does not appear to have been even close to adequate time or conditioning-wise, but that is conjecture in 20/20 inhindsight. 2. Combo of graft and synthetics. Pin it permanently with the use of some available appliances and add some supporting tissue to the structure as above. Problems: Roughly same recovery time, slight increased risk of infection. Also once you start using "permanent" appliances to strengthen existing tissue the organic structure may not have the same integrity if you have to go back to remove the appliance later because of refracture, disease, rejection, etc.... 3. There are some new synthetic implants out there that completely REPLACE some structures. Some experimental* models have an expodentially greater strength and stress functionality than the replaced structure. In short, they work better than the real thing. Problems: Not all patients (even those with very similiar injuries)are suitable candidates for this type of intervention. It is a case by case assessment. Big Upside: Recovery is sometimes shorter than conventional surgical tissue reattachment. *(I say experimental, which most people interpret as a few isolated or rare cases, but a vast majority of these implants are success stories walking around out in testimony. And there are several different types.) Hope this helps and hope you are the one that asked. ------------------
Popeye, No, I didn't ask...but your post is very interesting. What are the chances of full recovery on this one? Will this injury affect him for the rest of his career or are his knees messed up anyway? What do you for a living? ------------------ Nederland 2000 NBA+stupidity=Brand ROY NBA+common sense=Franchise MVP Houston Rockets Space Center- Not just another ClutchCity.NET clone
