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Chapter 9: Jalen "Call Me Daddy" Green

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Oct 31, 2024.

  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist
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    For 3 years now, Jalen Green has been catching up on the development support that he has been promised for 6 years. Years of his own bad choices like going to the G League Ignite and unlucky choices like linking up with a franchise that is desperate to lose every game it possibly can no matter the cost. Even on tanking teams, there is some understanding of the need for a good development program and culture. It just never happened that this kid landed in an average development environment. That is, until Ime Udoka showed up.

    Ime Udoka is the universe's gift to Jalen Green. Made a career out of guarding wing players, so he understands their mindset. An expert at skills development, promoting unselfishness and aggressive defense, the exact things Green needed to expand his game in a meaningful way. Beyond grabbing a few more rebounds and assists. Green's first words to Ime Udoka were "Whatever it takes to win" and he has stuck to his word. Sometimes in life a player's jumper can be unpredictable, but on the things in his control he has improved drastically: defense, unselfishness, boxing out, finishing. Massive strides. I've been telling you for months now, all that remains is a little polish on the jumper and some wiser shot selection. Once defenses start respecting the jumper, we will see the real Jalen Green unleashed. The paint will finally be unpacked and he can get to work on our new bread and butter: Jalen tearing apart the paint. That's when he'll solidify into the player he's going to be for us.

    We're only 4 games into this season. Incredible stat line, we get it. Two way player, we get it. Unselfish and showing leadership in clutch moments, forget it. If you believe that for 3 years there were no signs that he's an outlier, then there are no new signs right now. Jalen Green has had better/similar 4-game stretches. This could be another 4-game stretch followed by 10 bad games. For you, there's still no reason to believe Green is about to have a breakout season. That's right. It's actually going to happen exactly as we thought it would.

    I waited for the very last moment I could possibly wait to release this chapter. We sit at the tipping point of Jalen Green's career. Anything is still possible. Please post your favorite receipts for fun and laughs. Please also feel free to post our most optimistic takes so that if we're wrong, we can laugh at them. I hope things don't get too messy in here, but believe me it will all be settled soon.

    He's a Daddy at home. A Daddy on the court. Soon, a Daddy to many on the board. Give it up for Jalen "Call Me Daddy" Green. It's about to be an incredible few weeks to end the final chapter of this incredibly unlikely journey that ends well for all of us.
     
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  2. Dobbizzle

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    I don't even consider it "unlikely." When you compare him to the other players at his position in his and the next 2 drafts he has more big games than every single one of them drafted in the top 10 combined. Busts don't really do that.
     
  3. Mathloom

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    You know a big part of why the analysis of Jalen is so wildly bipolar is because there are not many good comps. Players who got 35 minutes a game and 18-20 shots a game at his age and level of fundamentals are so incredibly rare - they barely exist. I think probably Lebron and Doncic are the only ones who took a large volume at age 18 and could beat the league average efficiency.

    He was thrown into that role when in reality he should have been coming off the bench for 1.5 years at minimum. Should have been learning from vets and watching a team win. His pre-NBA experience was exceptionally lagging behind his peers. It's really rare to salvage a player when their development gets that screwed up. To get him back on track in less than 2 years after 6+ years of neglect is what I consider the unlikely story.

    The big games were always the biggest sign to me that something was up. There's something out of place here. His ceiling was always way too high for his age. That was always highly unusual and for me opened the door to understanding why we may be kind of watching an extreme late bloomer. His character (hard work, resilience, patience, stamina, coachability) also pointed to an outlier situation. It was pretty clear to me that while the fundamentals he arrived with were very disappointing, he seems to be someone who can develop very very quickly in the right environment.
     
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  4. Dobbizzle

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    I think it's more the hyper focus on efficiency that's the issue tbh. You don't put up 110 20+pts games in your first 3 seasons if you're a bust. Plenty of young players get handed the keys to the kingdom, very few put up those counting stats as a scorer. If efficiency was all that mattered MJ (131st all time TS%) would be significantly less successful than Reggie Miller (16th all time TS%) What really matters though are their rings (6 vs 0) and PPG totals (30.1 vs 18.2) when figuring out who was the better scorer. More efficient and better are not synonymous with each other. Unfortunately we had Morey, so the majority of long term Rockets fans are obsessed with efficiency above all else. Never mind that 15 efficient points still lose to 40 inefficient ones if you can only put the 15 on the board.
     
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    Chapter 10: Math Diddy Loom: Let's Party in the Hamptons.

    I pay top dollar for the book once you finish......Udoka the universe's gift, great embellishing.

    You deserve much more, to be MJ's writer of bios. :D:D:D

     
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    .857 at the rim (12/14)
    .452 from 3 (14/31)
    .150 everywhere else (3/20)

    If he's going to shoot ~80+% at the rim (.692 last year) he's going to continue to see defenders go under picks and dare him to shoot the outside shot.

    .85 equates to 1.7ppp or 170 per 100 possessions - before accounting for and 1's.
    That's equal to 56.7% from 3.

    Last years .692 at the rim equates to 1.38ppp or 138 per 100. That's the equivalent of ~46.1 from 3.

    I'm not complaining .... happy to see him playing well.

    Now someone light a fire under Sengun's ass ....
     
  7. marinara

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    He gets hate because his " zesty " that's the reason why.
     
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    So you think a man who knocked up 2 women hotter than you've ever had in your life is "zesty?" Sounds like nothing to do with basketball and everything to do with projecting your own bigotry tbh. Do better.
     
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    He paints his nails, I could care less I'm not old I understand what's " fashionable "

    That's not my point and no I'm not projecting at all.

    I've always been a fan of Jalen also ?

    I get its the internet but theres a reason also why I put " zesty " Its something that I don't believe he is hence why I put it in quotation marks.

    There's a reason why I only read on this forum and don't post much people got their own agendas and think people attack players.

    Bigotry? Under his comments on IG is it not full of people talking **** about him and JC? I'm just telling you what people talk about.
     
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    Great... just when my negative posting after that first game gave some good mojo to Jalen... all that good mojo is going to be gone.

    Mathloom posts a way too early Jalen hype thread again, only for Jalen to start sucking again. Like clockwork. Every damn time.
     
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    Very well said.

    Once again you nailed it with logic Sir.

     
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  13. Believe It!

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    Need a "Love It" option!

    :D
     
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    He’s hitting his 3s. It’s always come down to that. If he does it consistently then he’s a star. If not then the chucker/bust label comes back out.
     
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    That has been the narrative up to this season but I don't think it applies now. He's improved drastically on so many other aspects of his game (see OP) that even if he's not hitting 3s at this pace he's still much improved.
     
  16. Bo6

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    mathloom out of pocket for this title... and i'm a long time subscriber.
     
  17. dmenacela

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    Jalen who? This guy stinks
     
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    pretty sure this is an anti-senguin thread
     
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    Houston77 COOKIES AND CAKE, MY TEAM BAKED!
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    I wouldn't exactly call him "zesty". I think he's more "humpy".
     

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