1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Chad Ford Says Amare is 2nd Best C

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by bigsm00th, Jan 6, 2005.

  1. bigsm00th

    bigsm00th Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2002
    Messages:
    108
    Likes Received:
    0
    And I happen to agree...

    "Dennis (SB Ca): Chad, just based on personal opinion and all #s aside, is Amare the 2nd best center in the league???

    Chad Ford: No question. I know Stoudemire doesn't like to be called a center, but ... he's able to dominate everyone at that position. He's too quick for the big burly centers and too strong for the rail thin shot blockers. The fact that he runs the floor better than most guards is the real secret behind the Suns success so far. To me, only Shaq is more dominant."

    Gotta agree with him. Amare has just been a beast this yr.
     
  2. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,606
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    He still is a PF anyway. He didn't exactly dominate last night did he when he went up against a true center did he?
     
  3. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18
    No question? No question? is that steven a smith or chad ford?

    The only thing Amare is better than Yao at is scoring. I will give him that. But he was having great difficulties against Yao last night. Yao was shutting him down. Amare on Yao one on one in the post... would amare shut Yao down? was that a yes? please baby baby please!!
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,969
    Likes Received:
    39,429
    Reminds me of a young Hakeem.
     
  5. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18
    on offense, yes.

    but every other aspect of the game, there is no comparison. not even close.
     
  6. KaiSeR SoZe

    KaiSeR SoZe Member

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2003
    Messages:
    8,395
    Likes Received:
    39
    I don't think he will even pan out to be the dominant Hakeem of later

    with the Dream Shake and the other numerous, effective moves Hakeem had, I don't think that Amare is capable of that stuff
     
  7. 12345

    12345 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2003
    Messages:
    735
    Likes Received:
    0
    His rebounding isn't good for someone with his size and athleticism and his defense isn't good.
     
  8. DollarBill

    DollarBill Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2003
    Messages:
    418
    Likes Received:
    1
    OMFG! Did Chad Ford really say that? I can't believe it. If he said it, it must be true. We are doomed. Amare is 2nd best Center!! Can the Rockets move to eastern conference?
     
  9. GRENDEL

    GRENDEL Member

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2002
    Messages:
    17,468
    Likes Received:
    5,266
    That is because he's only worried about one side of the floor.
     
  10. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2001
    Messages:
    26,598
    Likes Received:
    35,723
    Duncan's the 2nd best center. Although Erick Dampier thinks he is the 2nd best center.
     
  11. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18
    yeah two different styles.

    The energy level is there with the guy though and I think more than anything thats what made Hakeem so great. and immense amount of energy and non-stop for 48 minutes.

    Also I think Hakeem was seeing lots of double and triple teams at the start and i dont think amare is as heavily double teamed. not yet at least.

    But again, offense is great and amares offensive stats are there but watching Hakeem dominate every other facet of the game, rebounding, shot blocking, defense, steals even, and still having the energy to consistently score 25 to 30 every night - thats what separates him from the Amare.

    but enough of that. this thread is about chad ford and his 'no question' 'no doubt' comment saying amare is the second best center in the league.

    you know, after saying Mcgrady would never go to Houston you'd think the guy would leave a little room open for himself to be wrong. but with LL cool J here...uh I mean Chad Ford.. we get a 'No question" or "No doubt'
     
  12. Davidoff

    Davidoff Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2004
    Messages:
    5,643
    Likes Received:
    9
    I'm watching Chad Fing Ford on the Hot List right now... HOW DOES HE KEEP A JOB??? All he says is "I THINK" never "I know.." or "From an inside source..." GIVE ME A BREAK any of us could do his job if all we have to do is type up so crap about what we think...
     
  13. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,606
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    If he wasn't listed as a power foward. Thats the real reason there aren't many good centers in the league, they all play foward now with only spot time at center. And Duncan is better than Shaq. I think Garnett is the only player better than Duncan now.
     
  14. DrNuegebauer

    DrNuegebauer Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2000
    Messages:
    12,680
    Likes Received:
    9,867
    If Duncan ever lined up at centre then he wouldn't be the 2nd best - but since he doesn't line up there, Shaq can hold his title.

    As far as saying that the only thing Stoudemire does better (than Yao) is score :rolleyes:

    He does get more points per game
    He blocks as many shots
    He gets more steals
    He turns the ball over less
    He hands out more assists
    He gets as many rebounds per game
    He shoots a better field goal percentage
    And he's just plain more athletic!

    The only thing Yao does better than Stoudemire is shoot free throws better (and snaffle 0.1 extra offensive rebounds per contest....).


    How is Yao any better? It's not like he's more aggressive or anything :confused:
     
  15. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18
    he does that when talking about trade rumors. at least now he does after saying mcgrady would not come to houston.

    but when it comes to basketball play, there's a great deal more certainty in his answers.

    you know, 'no doubt' 'no question' 'most definitely'
     
  16. Texas Stoke

    Texas Stoke Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    5,743
    Likes Received:
    18

    thats the thing. the ? asked of Ford was, 'is Amare the second best center'

    if you were to ask me would i take Amare to play center in place of Yao. honestly the answer would be 'no'.

    a couple of postions are interchangeable in this league. But the center position is one that is not.

    And I think Yao is a better center than Stoudamire and more valuable to the Rockets than Stoudamire would be as our center.
     
  17. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,606
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    Yao Career: 31mpg, .512fg%, .803ft%, 1.84bpg, 2.4tpg, 8.6rpg, 1.5apg, 15.9ppg

    Amare: 34mpg, .501fg%, .693ft%, 1.36bpg, 2.7tpg, 8.8rpg, 1.2apg, 18.2ppg

    They seem very even by stats, but Amare plays on a high scoring team, and Yao plays on a slow defensive team. Amare wouldn't put up as good of stats in Houston's offense like Yao has.
     
  18. 12345

    12345 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2003
    Messages:
    735
    Likes Received:
    0
    Amare is a little bit better than Yao. I think Yao has almost maxed out on his potential. His rebounds per game is around the same as last season and his ppg is slightly better but his turnovers have increased. Amare's ppg has increased significantly - I realize that he plays in an up-tempo offense but his FG% is higher and he turns the ball over less.
     
  19. juicystream

    juicystream Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2001
    Messages:
    30,606
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    He shoots under 40% career against Yao. Amare plays poorly if he is forced to go one on one, he only shoots well because he gets extremely easy baskets. Yao shoots around 50% against the Suns.
     
  20. SmeggySmeg

    SmeggySmeg Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 1999
    Messages:
    14,887
    Likes Received:
    123
    how can anyone mention Amare in the same breath as one fo the greatest Centres of all time like Hakeem......

    right now Amare looks great because he is a very explosive PF mismatches up against slower real centres...

    another thing that differeniates him from Dream..... right now Amare has a larger vertical than shooting range
     

Share This Page