Houston trades: SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 41.7 minutes) Houston receives: C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) Change in team outlook: -3.5 ppg, +3.7 rpg, and -0.9 apg. New York trades: C Kurt Thomas (14.0 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.8 minutes) New York receives: SG Cuttino Mobley (17.5 ppg, 4.2 rpg, 2.9 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: +3.5 ppg, -3.7 rpg, and +0.9 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED i know, i know. i hate realgm, too. but damnit, i had to see if this was a plausible trade. before you decide, consider this: cat and eddie are essentially, our only tradeable assets. if you're going to trade cat for kurt, you have to either move eddie to the 3 (which i like), have eddie back up kurt and yao, or trade eddie for a point guard, so steve can play the one. if i were to do this, i'd move eddie to the 3 and acquire speedy claxton to run the point. HOUSTON: PG: claxton SG: francis SF: griffin PF: kurt thomas C: yao ming that's a strong, fast team, and you haven't given up both of your assets. claxton's a free agent and he won't be returning to san antonio. he doesn't like it there (the city). more importantly, he would not cost much at all. new york, on the other hand, could try having cat at the one - something he has done before. next year, they'd be running with: PG: cat SG: houston SF: spree (unless he's traded, which is likely) PF: mcdyess C: ?? that's a pretty good eastern conference team.
info on kurt thomas: height: 6'9' weight: 235 pounds birthday: 10/4/72 college: TCU experience: 7 years contract: next year is the last year of a 3 year, $13 million contract.
Really, how much bettan than KT is Kurt Thomas???? Honestly??? Well then, why would u give up Cat for him??
This trade does not make sense for either teams better. We have two pfs and they have enough guards. Also, we are giving up too much!
kurt thomas is a completely different player than kenny thomas. kenny is a 3/4, who is eventually going to be a 2/3/4. kurt thomas is a rugged 4/5 with good post moves and a good faceup jumper. besides, what the hell does kt have to do with this? he's no longer on the team, and if we could have kept him, we would have. fact of the matter is that we were not/could not resign him this offseason, so we traded him while we could.
IMPOSSIBLE trade for one NY likes Kurt Thomas and that doesnt solve their big man problem sure they have them 2 white guys (forgot names). It's a lobsided trade in Houston's favor so thats how you know its not going to happen!
I think Kurt thomas would be a great addition to the Rockets. he is an effective offensive player who can hit the perimeter shot, and a rough rugged type player as described earlier. The Rockets have too many finesse players right now. Kurt is one that is willing to mix it up and he has a lot of playoff experience. He is veteran-enough for me. Of course, NY probably feels that Kurt is more valuable right now since McDyess will probably miss another season. If the Rockets were to get Kurt Thomas, he would probably have to come off the bench, but the Rockets need more qulaity depth anyway. They have crappy depth now. Of course what I wouls like to see is the Rockets get a Brian Grant, but his contract may be too hefty.
It has a lot to do w/ KT. First of all, their #s are similar, 14 and 8, both have a decent 'face up jumper' and above avg. post up moves. But lets look at it this way: we trade KT for Posey, we let Posey walk, trade Cat for Kurt Thomas. So we lose KT and Cat and only get Kurt Thomas......I dont think so. Even if we keep Posey, trading Cat for Kurt Thomas is a ripoff. And did u say KT eventually will be a 2
I agree with verse that KT would be a good addition, but I wonder if we would have to give up Cat to get him. Perhaps Cato for KT. This would give NY a true 5 to pair with McD, and us a bruiser 4 that can give minutes at the 5 in a back-up role.
So, the Knicks will play Houston and Spree and Cat and Shandon at the same time? Cat is not going to NY.
according to larry brown, kenny will eventually be covering 2s. that's right. as for the kt/posey/cat/thomas sequence you mentioned, there is a fundamental flaw with that viewpoint: we were going to lose kt anyway! so he's out of the equation. and how does acquiring kurt thomas affect us resigning james posey?
I think Cato's value is higher than Cat. A big man is always a good commodity. There are good guards coming from college every year.
either way, rockets management apparently is not willing to trade cato at this point - according to Doc Rocket.
This makes no sense. If you have 3 pf's, you really have none. Playing Griffin at the 3 is impossible because of his poor lateral movement. Why would NY do this considering they don't know when and if Mcdyess will ever play next season? Makes no sense.
There is a long time between now and FA/trading time. Who signs where or who gets traded to wherever and Cato or Cat or or or become more -- or less -- valuable to someone else. remember, the draft lottery has not yet taken place so there is no telling which teams moved into primo position and which fell out (Knicks, Cavs anyone???). The Rox' management, if smart (oh, my -- fearful thought) should posture that Cato is virtually untouchable, Cat, too. Then massage offers upward. Doc or not, Cato is gone before next season.
your wrong about Kenny's jumper. His face up jumper is not reliable. And he cannot make these face up jumpers in the clutch moments of games. He does NOT have a perimeter game like many make him out to have.
verse, the point is, we traded away KT cause we had a glut at the PF position. so why would we trade away our biggest trade commodity to get ourselves into a similar situation again?
Verse....I like Kurt Thomas. He's a rebounder. He can kinda shoot. Would be a great enforcer for Yao. But man.....Speedy Claxton a starter? He is fast....but not that good. He's brave. But no. Griffin at 3.....then what happens to my man Posey?!? And why would the Knicks want another shooting guard with Allan and Latrell. Maybe they are gonna move one of them.... To make it more attractive.....we would have to give up Cato. I'm not sure about McDyess'essd'jse;l situation. If he can play or not or whatever. But I think they would like Cato...and Mobley...and a 1st round draft pick. Then they give us Kurt Thomas and some loser like Charlie Ward...or Allan Houston.
