I'm wondering if there are any CSS experts on the BBS. I've been delving pretty heavily lately into website accessibility standards and CSS and I'd be curious if anyone else has played around with it and your experiences making HTML more accessible.
can i pick these up at Bed, Bath and Beyond? seriously, Jeff...we don't have to know EVERYTHING that goes on in your home!! gosh!
What i use them the most for is for formatting text. Having a fixed pixle font size is a god-send. I also have used them for formatting text-input boxes etc. I have started to use layers more in my sites becasue it seems like everybody now has browsers that support them. I love em. Dreamweaver makes it easy.
The programmers in my former team used this stuff heavily. We based a whole redesign on this stuff, but I think they had to keep it much simpler than they would have been able to do it had it not been for trying to keep it compatible with more browser versions. I think they used some of that stuff to build the whole portal in different languages: http://www.lycos.co.uk http://www.jubii.dk If you check the source, you can see they used CSS. Apparently, it helped them build lighter pages. Of course, I personally don't understand anything about how it works.
I have always used them for font styles, but recently started using unordered lists to format site navigation and now have really gotten into formatting tables and data cells with CSS. I don't use layers very often because their formatting with relative/absolute can be tricky with browsers and window sizes. One thing I've been trying to figure out is a good way to get images to position themselves to the left of text on navigation elements. Normally, I'd just make two table data cells, one with the image and the one to the right of it with the text. But, CSS is just so damn convenient. Another thing that has been really tricky lately is unordered lists INSIDE unordered lists. I've been using them to create bullet lists with custom bullets, but, man, getting a second set of bullets to indent as a second unordered list (like an outline) is a beyotch, especially getting it to work in every browser correctly. As an aside, I've been reading Jeffrey Zeldman's stuff and keeping track of his website, but that guy and his followers are hard core with this accessibility thing. I'm not sure I'm ready to go there.
two guys that are doing some really innovative stuff with CSS and standards compliant design are Douglas Bowman [ http://www.stopdesign.com ] and Dan Cederholm [ http://www.simplebits.com ] i read both sites regularly, very interesting tips and what not. also check out the CSS Zen Garden [ http://www.csszengarden.com ] - some of the stuff on there is absolutely amazing. Jeff, for your question specifically, check dan's site (the archives) - he usually posts articles that have very interesting little code tidbits. here's one on styling nested lists http://www.simplebits.com/archives/2003/10/19/styling_nested_lists.html
Thanks, mtweaze and welcome. Those sites are great. I visit these: http://www.csscreator.com/css-forum/ http://www.zeldman.com/ http://www.alistapart.com/ http://www.ericmeyeroncss.com/ Those all are good.
