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Carlos in pinstripes? Maybe not

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  1. Kamel

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    Carlos in pinstripes? The horror
    By Eric Neel
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    Hola Señor Octubre,

    How you feeling right now? Huge? You deserve it. Electric? That's all you. Clutch? You put da man in "You da man," Carlos.


    Eight home runs in 10 games. Eight home runs in 10 games and the eighth, with the Astros' season on the line and the ball just an inch above your shoelaces, the best of them all.

    That's 18 hits, 18 runs, 14 RBI, 3 stolen bases, a .462/.543/1.154 line, and a partridge in a pear tree.

    Good god, man. What's it all about, Alfie?

    You make an out about as often as Chris Mathews takes a pause.

    You stand there, with that easy, layback stance, like you're kicking it on the stoop, spying a pretty girl across the street. Then you come through, with that sweet C of a swing, and finish high and hard, slapping the bat on your back, throwing bolts like Zeus, quick and unforgiving.


    You know you're in an other-wordly zone when you're hitting this pitch for a home run.

    And it's not just the hits. Let's talk about running up that hill Monday night. Backwards. With the unhurried grace of Hines doing a soft-shoes. Let's talk about your death-to-flying-objects dive on Renteria's sure double. That was something. A play Texas kids will be talking about when they're aging Lone Star lions. It was a Tommy Agee play, a Kirby at the wall play, a play Willie might have made. And the thing about it was, there was never any doubt you were going to glove it. You're so dialed right now it was a gimmee.

    We can only imagine the feeling. Are you tuned to sub-atomic waves? Do you smell the pheromones of the flies that once landed on the hide that became the ball that is hurtling toward you in slow motion? Is this a simple game for you, governed by the most basic principles of physics? Are you so deep in it now that you can't for the life of you understand how others might find it difficult to play?

    We ask because, like Jordan that night in Portland, like Mastrantonio down in the abyss, you're in uncharted waters. Tell us what it's like. Bring home stories from your adventures.

    And man, what a time to do it. Two weeks in October. With the whole world watching. Two scorching pennant-fever weeks in October. And you a free agent when it's over.

    That must taste sweet.


    How many times a day does Scottie B call you right now? Six? Seven? Does he actually talk or does he just shout "Cha-ching!" and giggle hysterically?


    Life is sweet right now for Houston's Mr. October.

    They don't have charts for the climb in your stock; the little green arrow just keeps shooting up past the edge of the screen.

    The phone won't stop ringing now, you know. The big boys are about to come calling, and they're bringing their checkbooks with them. You've got five tools and a long line of zeroes laid out in front of you. It's your world, Carlos. The rest of us are just visiting.

    And you know who the first visitor will be, don't you? That's right, The Shipbuilder. He's going to tell you Bernie, god love him, is on his way out. He's going to wax poetic about Joe D and Mickey, talk to you about a legacy and a lineage, about your spot in the history books. He's going to bring a pinstriped jersey and a mountain of cash to your door.

    And all the while, Scottie B's going to be rubbing your shoulders the way Angelo rubbed Ali, giving you the full Jesus Shuttleworth treatment, saying, "You're beautiful Baby, you're beautiful."

    And he'll be right. And you'll deserve everything they throw at you. And you should swoop on this chance like a gull going for a toddler's lunch at the beach. You've earned this. Fate and your talent have conspired to bring you fortune. Congrats.

    Except -- and we know we have no right to ask this -- we want you take a pass on the Yanks.

    It's not a hater thing, it really isn't.


    It's an A-Rod thing. Look at him. Richest man in sports and nobody cares. He stood where you stood now, in front of a big buffet full of greenback dollar bills. He had ungodly sums of money on the one side and the chance to be the greatest shortstop of all time on the other side of the line, and grabbed the dough. And the thing is, once you grab the dough, that's who you are. There's no undoing it.


    We can only hope that Beltran's future doesn't point to pinstripes.


    You can wrap yourself in a cloak of "playing for a winner," like he's done now with the Yanks, but it doesn't change who you are to most baseball fans, not even a little. You're a money guy, a Me guy, you're nothing but a Boras robot, programmed for cash and incentives.

    It ain't pretty. And what's worse, it ain't special. You take George's high bid and you're a cliché, a symbol of modern greed, and, maybe worst of all, you're just one of the pinstriped guys, lumped in when people love or hate the Empire. It doesn't have to be like that. You can go another way. You can do the one thing, the only thing, that could make you hotter than you are today. You can do what A-Rod didn't do. You can do what Schilling did. You can become an icon and a legend. You can keep your underdog stripes. You can sign, the way Sheed Wallace did in Detroit this summer, for less, because you're signing for more, because you're signing for comraderie, maybe, or the chance to maintain your identity, or the opportunity to stick it to fat cats.

    We know we can't ask this of you. We know it's crazy.

    But we've seen you play these last two weeks, and we know you're capable of some mad, mad things.

    Best of luck tonight.

    Sincerely,

    Loyal Lovers of Baseball Everywhere

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    After reading a lot of Beltran articles, I believe we have a strong chance of resigning Beltran, if we can bring back Berkman and Oswalt. Clemens staying one more year could actually help us resgin Beltran too.

    Joining the Yankees would be all about the money not about winning. For whenever the Yankees win a World series, it really doesn't count, for its like you bought the championship. Thus if you really play the sport for about the competition, you would play for another team with the mindset of taking down the Yankees.
     
  2. Nick

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    As I said before... Beltran's emmense success on the national stage actually HELPS our chances to sign him. Sure, the Yankees were gonna make a run at him no matter what, and had we not gotten this far, we would have made our "token" offer (like we did to Randy Johnson in 98) and have gracely succumbed to the evil empire, all the while saying "we made a competitive offer... we tried."

    But, the fact that this team has had so much success, and a lot of
    it is due directly to him being on this team, will lead the Astros into a "do-or-die" mode when it comes to re-signing this guy. That would not have been there had we a.) not made the playoffs, b.) not won a playoff series, and c.) had he not had one of the greatest post-seasons ever.

    Now, it becomes preposterous of the 'Stros DON'T do everything in their power to keep him (short of paying him over $20 million... no player is worth that much).
     
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    For Mariners, time to get out the checkbook

    Tuesday, October 19, 2004
    Meehan: Offseason should be a busy one


    Seattle Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi is in the easy phase of his job this week as he interviews candidates for the team's vacant manager's slot.

    Ahead looms the gargantuan task of reshaping the Seattle roster in perhaps the most pivotal offseason in franchise history.

    Seattle can't afford another 63-99 season. Attendance slipped to 2.9 million this year, the first time it has dipped under 3 million in a full season at Safeco Field.

    The good news is that Seattle has the wherewithal to take a big stride forward. The departures of a group of veterans that included John Olerud, Freddy Garcia, Edgar Martinez, Rich Aurilia and Kevin Jarvis gives Seattle about $25 million in payroll to spend on the free agent market.

    Seattle has too many holes to solve solely through free agency. But the right free agent or two could lead Seattle into a new era.

    And for the Mariners, the right guy is Houston center fielder Carlos Beltran, a 27-year-old Puerto Rico native who has sent his free agent market value skyrocketing with an astounding postseason.

    Entering Monday night, Beltran was hitting .486 in the National League championship and division series and had tied Barry Bonds with a record eight home runs in a single postseason.

    Joe DiMaggio hit eight home runs in 51 postseason games. Beltran has done it in nine.

    Beltran, a free agent, is making $9 million this year. He might double that next season. And the Mariners should be the team writing the check.

    The fleet Beltran -- he stole 42 bases -- is a perfect fit for Safeco and the style of ball that the Mariners must pursue in this pitcher's park. He is a legitimate five-tool player whose best years are ahead of him.

    To sign Beltran, Seattle must fend off the Yankees, the Cubs, the Red Sox, the Angels and the Astros. And it should be prepared to do so.

    Seattle's $81.5 million payroll ranked 11th in the big leagues this year. Chief operating officer Howard Lincoln has said the team is prepared to budget for a loss next season to pay for its on-field needs.

    The free agent market is tricky. Although the Mariners need a top starter, signing free agent pitchers to big contracts is a gamble because of the injury risk. It's far better to spend the money on a young position player who might be in center field for seven or eight years.

    Here is what the Mariners should do:

    Sign the switch hitting Beltran and trade center fielder Randy Winn for a pitcher.


    Install rookie Jeremy Reed in left field. Reed has good speed and hit .397 in 18 games in September. With Ichiro Suzuki in right, this would restore outstanding defense to the Mariners' outfield, something that was lacking in 2004.

    Move left fielder Raul Ibanez to first base. Ibanez is a good hitter but a below-average outfielder.

    Move rookie shortstop Jose Lopez to third base. The poised 20-year-old has a big upside but lacks range at shortstop.

    Sign a free agent shortstop who plays solid defense. He doesn't have to have a potent bat; he will earn his salary with the glove.

    The Cardinals' Edgar Renteria is the best shortstop on the free agent market. Seattle probably couldn't afford both Beltran and Renteria, but perhaps this team should dream big and take a run at both.

    Leave Bret Boone at second. Boone will bounce back from an off year at the plate once the pressure eases on him to produce.

    Resign catcher Dan Wilson. Miguel Olivo is a talent. He runs better than any catcher in the big leagues and throws as well as any. But Olivo is raw behind the plate; he must improve his handling of pitchers and blocking skills. Wilson remains one of the American League's best defensive catchers.

    Bucky Jacobsen, the rookie from Hermiston, showed consistent power before he was injured and could provide punch as the designated hitter.

    The pitching staff remains a wild card. Here the Mariners should roll the dice and pray. Pray that Joel Pineiro, Rafael Soriano and closer Eddie Guardado recover from injuries. Pineiro and Guardado already are pitching in the bullpen in Arizona; Soriano might miss the first half of the 2005 season.

    Rookie Bobby Madritsch and Gil Meche were the team's best starting pitchers down the stretch this season. The rest of the 2005 rotation would include Pineiro, veteran Jamie Moyer and Ryan Franklin.

    Beltran would cost Seattle a bundle, but the cost of not adding a player of his caliber might be higher. Beltran would invigorate the Seattle lineup and the fans. His style of play fits perfectly into what Seattle must do to win -- play defense and run.

    The Mariners began 2004 with one of the slowest and oldest lineups in the American League. By adding Beltran and young players such as Reed and Lopez, the Mariners drastically change their makeup and become a very quick team.

    And the truth is Seattle can afford to compete for Beltran's services. The Mariners are among baseball's top revenue franchises, and it's time to start acting like it.

    Some team needs to do baseball a favor and keep Beltran away from the Bronx. Let it be the Mariners.

    Brian Meehan, 503-221-4341; brianmeehan@news.oregonian.com



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