Captain America movie will be called 'The First Avenger' overseas

"Captain America" is a dumb name anyway. "The First Avenger" sounds much cooler.

Imagine if someone was marketing a superhero movie called "Captain Russia" or "Captain China" in the United States. Wouldn't we laugh at such a title?

 

Sounds like smart marketing, and I am with Durv....that is a cooler title.

DD

 

For somebody with so much conviction, why don't you just not watch Hollywood movies at all instead of stealing them and acting like it's some kind of moral last stand?

BTW, GI JOE is known as Action Force everywhere else in the world. So this isn't some new idea, even in "Reagan's America," people thought like this. It's not about a lack of "American Pride," it's about the bottom line. You make it sound like they are caving in to other people's "wimpy feelings" and are catering to them when in reality they are not caving into your "feelings" and don't care whether you are offended because what they want is to make as much money around the world as is possible off of this movie. That's pure capitalism, homie.

 

Here's the question, Did you have a problem with the second Batman movie being called "The Dark Knight"?

If no, you shouldn't have a problem with this one, in fact the The first Avenger is a much cooler name and makes me wanna see it more just like Dark Knight

 

That's a very good point. We are so use to hearing Captain America that it sounds normal. BUt you are right Captain China, Captain Russia, Captain Japan, Captain South Africa just sounds like a comedy or a low budget B-movie.

 

I assure you, the studio is not scared or shy.

The studio just happens to know that the movie will make more in America is it's called Captain America, and more overseas if it's called The First Avenger.

There is a fine line between obnoxiousness and pride. The studio seems to know and respect that line very well. You, on the other hand, seem to be incapable of distinguishing between the two. It's precisely because of people with that quality that the studio needs a two-faced approach to maximize sales.

So let's look at this from the studio's perspective:

- Make money, don't irritate fringe characters, and be proud; OR
- Make less money, irritate fringe characters, and be obnoxious.

I don't understand how you even have a problem with this. It's actually a victory for Americans that they are not so insecure as to have to hold on to the name just to make a point, but instead stick to the goal of making as much money as possible.

 

Seriously? This is what you are whining about?

 

You seem oblivious to the idea that there is justified anti-American sentiment and unjustified anti-American sentiment. Taking a blanket approach is either idiotic (ignorant of the difference) or obnoxious (aware but defiant). This makes it difficult for me to understand how you can even start to comprehend the dynamics of this issue.

If you want to change this dynamic, try this: support peaceful co-existance and eliminate justified anti-American sentiment in a peaceful way. Stop supporting wars where civilians have to die. There are people who have very good reasons to dislike US foreign policy, and you waving a flag in their face is absolutely obnoxious.

Once again, the studio doesn't really care what people think, they just want to make more money. All they care about is what some old fart from another country who is part of an almost monopolistic theatre industry sees when they are presented with the movie. It will read "The First Avenger - sure to sell tons of tickets!!!". Then hollywood takes its money, the theatres air it, and no one cares what consumers think because the money has been made already.

Also, Captain America is not real. From your post, I couldn't tell if you know that. I highly recommend you prioritize the feelings of real people over mythical characters from comics.

I would like to hear your thoughts on how your strategy of shoving Americanism down foreign people's throats will reduce anti-American sentiment. It seems an odd strategy if your two main goals are: (1) Make maximum money and (2) reduce anti-American sentiment.

 

One thing happens and "all of Hollywood" has no backbone. Just like when one thing happens, y'all post it in here, and "all Muslims" are extremists.

Y'all blow.

 

You seem to be in the habit of responding to only what you like to or are able to respond to, is that done intentionally?

Stop using catch words. If we just split the actions into three:

Reject.... Do nothing... Accomodate

To accomodate anti-American sentiment, you would have to call it Captain Iraq. To reject it, you would have to call it Captain America. To stay neutral, you probably call it The First Avenger.

The only thing these people are accomodating is money.

I'm not anti-American FYI, I'm pro-American. I don't see nationalism as a very good thing, not for America, and not for my own country or countries. This is why I'm not dissapointed by the name change of the movie. It baffles me why you're dissapointed - I assume you are in full support of a capitalist America, and this is a direct result of that. Money comes first, and the level of patriotism in the title of a movie is comparatively trivial. Unless you are a socialist and don't believe in the virtues of capitalism, I can't understand how you would have it any other way.

In a free market, if patriotism was truly more important than money, and all Americans were patriotic, then they won't go to the movie and it will flop. But we both know that's not going to happen, and you can speculate as to why that will not happen.

Fact of the matter is, this is the best way to make the most money and reduce the growth of anti-American sentiment. Because if, as the studio believes, the name Captain America is going to irritate people, then that will inflame anti-American sentiment and subsequently reduce profits.

I haven't heard your answers yet though. Assuming there is just 1 person who justifiably holds anti-American sentiment, then how will waving the American flag in his face reduce that sentiment rather than increase it?

 

Mathloom: I think tallanvor is just joking/trolling. Even if he isn't, just save your breath (and time), and don't take things so seriously

 

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O Avenger my Avenger! Our fearful trip is done!

 

Captain America is one of the most pathetic superhero in the Marvel lineup. When compared to other superheroes, he is more of a third world country village cop.

I think Hollywood did the right thing by changing the name or the folks outside the US watching "Captain America" would look at us as weak chumps.

Thank you Hollywood for protecting America's image.