1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Cancel the Space Shuttle, says one of its designers.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Woofer, May 15, 2003.

  1. Woofer

    Woofer Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2000
    Messages:
    3,995
    Likes Received:
    1
    This is such a big pork barrel project, I can't see this happening. I don't think we should continue this either.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...6may16,1,4355573.story?coll=la-home-headlines

    Scrap Shuttle, Its Pioneer Says
    One of the nation's preeminent spacecraft designers says the current fleet is too old and should be replaced with a new design.


    By Ralph Vartabedian and Peter Pae, Times Staff Writers


    Max Faget, one of the United States' most important spacecraft designers, says the space shuttle, which he helped pioneer, should be retired and the human space program suspended until the nation can build a better vehicle for putting astronauts into orbit.

    Similar calls for grounding the shuttles and other harsh assessments of its safety have been growing over the past week from members of Congress and space policy experts who say the fleet is too unreliable, too old and too costly to continue operating.

    But such views have largely represented critics outside the circle of elite space engineers. Faget designed the Mercury space capsule and had a managing role in the design of every other U.S. human launch system, including the space shuttle, Apollo and Gemini. He has received almost every commendation that exists for engineers and was inducted into the Ohio-based National Inventor's Hall of Fame earlier this year.


    .
    .
    .

    The source said Boeing believes it can build such a shuttle in three years, far less than the decade or so it would take to develop and build the orbital space plane that NASA envisions as the replacement for the shuttle. The new vehicle would also cost significantly less, according to Boeing's internal projections, at about $2 billion, compared to about $10 billion for the orbital space plane.

    Faget said such a program might make sense, but questioned why anybody would use the same shuttle architecture that he pioneered almost 30 years ago.

    "As long as you are going to build a new one you ought to have better mold lines," Faget said. "There is nothing unstable about the shuttle and we could use the same mold lines. But I never did like the mold lines we had. It's an old prejudice."
     
  2. underoverup

    underoverup Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    75
    I can't imagine for a second the Shuttles flying for 2 more decades as they were originally intended. Forty year old spacecraft designed in the late 60's early 70's. What were they thinking not having a viable replacement ready to go now. They should have been seriously designing a replacement a decade ago.
     
  3. Fatty FatBastard

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2001
    Messages:
    15,916
    Likes Received:
    159
    His Name is not Max Faget, is it? No wonder he went geektacular.

    My views when I heard about the Columbia blowing up, as heinous as they may seem, were to the Duke's of Hazzards "General Lee". You can only jump that lake a certain amount of times.

    I also started pointing out cars from the late 70's/early 80's era. I showed people these cars and stated, would you be comfortable on a 1,000 mile roadtrip in that? Neither would I!

    I hope NASA has been spending money on a next gen. spaceship, because I believe everyone here who realizes that they were still on KILOBYTES of memory in those ships, should be shocked.

    It's time for SHUTTLE: TNG

    Sorry for the geekiness, but the starship enterprise has to be rebuilt.:p
     
  4. fatman510

    fatman510 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2002
    Messages:
    1,642
    Likes Received:
    0
    IMO, the space shuttle program should be shut down. NASA should spend its time and money on a way to send man to Mars or to colonize the moon.
     
  5. underoverup

    underoverup Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    3,208
    Likes Received:
    75
    State of the art 128k---and they have to use those old computers because nothing else will fit, time to search ebay. Don't they have triple redundancy with those old computers on most of the important systems?
     
  6. HAYJON02

    HAYJON02 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    4,777
    Likes Received:
    278
    ive always thought we should put alot more money into the space industry. think of all the spinoff technology we got from going to the moon. i say lets go to mars. if anything it would boost the economy.
     

Share This Page