http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051208/wl_nm/politics_dc_1 from the article: so explain something to me, if the guns that are smuggled in are the ones used in crimes, then how does banning all guns going to help if they're being smuggled in the first place?
At least it's harder to get a gun. It puzzles me, why one needs a gun in the first place? Compare gun related crimes ratio in US to European countries, you get the answer.
Because maybe our constition says we can have them? Also, comparing our gun related crime to europe's is ridiculous. Gun's don't kill people, people kill people... the vast majority of guns used in crimes are obtained illegally to begin with, so banning them will stop nothing.
Of course guns don't kill people, people kill. Then why are people worried about WMD? WMD don't kill people, people kill people. Form a commity, make sure those ones with a valid Id can register for WMDs. Can we say that guns make people kill people much easier? WMDs make people wipe out a whole city much easier? Why this convenience to have a gun handy? I didn't know it says in constitution that you can carry gun.
1. People may kill people, but kiling them with a gun is a whole lot easier. Come on, there's really no need for a hand gun other than for use agaisnt another human being. 2. There are tough gun control laws in Europe, Japan, etc. and they have far lower gun crime rates as well as murder rates. If we adopted there stance, what's to say we wouldn't follow? Seriously, if you couldn't manufacture guns in our country, there would be far less guns to use. Or do you want to only use the law of supply and demand when it comes to purely economics issues?
Hi, I'd like to introduce you to the 2nd Amendment. As for the "it makes it easier" argument... you can be killed with just about any sharp object pretty easily too, so are we gonna ban knives? That is just silly. What uses are their for guns? There are plenty, sport, hunting, personal protection... as in someone breaks into your home and wants to rape or kill your loved ones? Yeah, that frying pan should do wonders! If they ban guns then only criminals would have them, yeah that's real safe.
There is something that works well in Europe? I'd love to see it... The problems with violence isn't guns, it is a lack of law enforcement with bite, lack of structured homes (ie kids running wild with no parental control), a lack of education and countless other things... guns are not the problem.
Honestly, I didn't know that's in the US consitution, like I just said. Thanks for the link. But when you say you can kill someone with any sharp objects pretty easily too. I believe you were arguing for the argument's sake. Do you seriously believe people can kill other people with a frying pan as easily as using a gun? To be honest, I never ever worried about people breaking into my home and attempting to rape or kill my loved ones in Canada or Europe. However, on the street of New York, especially at night, I try to avoid eye contact and never want to be curious, because I keep telling myself, this guy or that guy might have a gun, and he would shoot me if I look him the wrong way. I am scared and worried. Of course, the perception is exaggerated, I know NYC is a lot safer now than 10 years ago, thanks to Rudy. So far, nothing happened to me or my loved ones. Personally, I feel a lot safer in a country where guns are forbidden, than in a country where anyone on the street could have a gun in the pocket. Banning guns won't make the gun related crime rate to Zero, it reduces. The facts are there. People using guns for sports and hunting, that's not reason enough for me to risk so many lives, but that's just me. It would be interesting to see the research results, that how many crimes or attempted crimes were actually prevented by privately owned guns, comparing to the numbers of gun related family tragedies, like murder, suiside, mis-fire accidents etc. If such research exists.
compare Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver to any similar sized US city. Canada has the same unstructured homes, similar education, watch the same TV shows and play the same video games, and has less stringent law enforcement. (and no capital punishment ). What's the problem, again? I support this ban.
Since you are a firm believer that the 2nd amendment makes owning any and all firearms OK, I assume you believe private ownership of grenades, bombs, missiles, and nuclear weapons should be OK?
Guns also are used for protection and to prevent tyranny. Switzerland has one of the lowest crime rates in Europe and the swiss are required to have guns.
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Why do people always bring up sport shooting with handguns? A. Who uses a friggin' pistol to shoot a deer? No hunter I know. B. Who in there right mind would say that the right to hunt outweighs the rights of innocents not to be gunned down by criminals? Come on. Maybe you like your guns, but that's no reason why hand guns should be allowed. Don't obfiscate the issue. Hardly any people are using the same guns for duck hunting as they are for bank robbery. To Svpernaut. In other threads you've championed Christianity. Jesus say 'turn the other cheek.' How do your reconcile this with your justification for guns? It seems like your religion says "meet hate with love." But you'd rather have hot lead? If you're going to use religion as your basis of justification in other debates, shouldn't you look to the bible here?
Not accurate at all. Switzerland has a militia-based military and Swiss are allowed to keep military issued firearms in their homes during and after service. Which means that rifles, not hand guns, are in the homes of many Swiss. That is not the issue here.
I don't own a gun and never plan to so I don't care one way or the other. But aren't something like half of the gun-homicides in the US committed in the inner-city - obstensibly with illegal guns? It seems that the problems with the US's high gun-homicide rates may have more to do with other social problems (gangs, drugs) than the legality of handguns. Personally - I don't care if they are banned. Just do more than slap someone's wrist if they own one illegally.
