Canada (Now, "Canuckistan") Refuses to Be in Missile Defense Scheme

Breaking news....Canadian Club Whiskey will now be re-bottled and re-named Freedom Club Whiskey for distribution in the U.S.



Canada knows a boondoggle when they see one. Unfortunately, for US Taxpayers, the current administration would rather spend money like a crackhead on a binge, just to keep their major contributors happy. For those of you with children, I sincerely hope your grandchildren enjoy footing the bill for the mess we are in now.

 

Why would they want to buy something that doesn't work? They're not that stupid.

 

Weren't you Canadian for a time Glynch?

 

Which country will drop H-Bombs or N-Bombs on Canada?

None.

 

I agree with not wanting to buy something that doesn't work but that hasn't stopped them in the past.

Ask them about their $115 million dollar gun registration system they paid < 2 Billion dollars for (and growing).

 

Polls indicate Canadians reject the shield because it might cause an international arms race, not because they don't think it will work, or because they don't want to be identified as allied with the US.

As for Wal-Mart, nice move. The store was losing money and they shouldn't be forced to accept union hacking up the process.

 

I'm still a bit confused by the story. Could Mango, or some other member who might aspire to come close to his abilities, find out exactly what is going on, and put it in English? Canada owns their airspace. They are a sovereign country who can make it's own decisions about it's defense. They are another ally of decades standing that the Bush Administration seems to have ticked off. And, knowing some Canadians, and having been there, I care about their opinion. Also, if they get ticked off enough, they could decide to abrogate their defense treaties with the United States. Some here may laugh, and say, "Who cares?? It's Canada!" Well, I care.


And Wal-Mart can kiss my ***. We booted their butt out of SW Austin, and I'm glad.





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“We simply cannot understand…”

And this is why no one wants to have anything to do with this administration. They really, truly, don’t understand.

At a high level this issue is about cosmetics, on both sides. The Bush administration wants Canada as a supporter to lend credence to what they are doing. They don’t want any money or any material involvement at all, I believe. Canada and the world are against this because we feel that it will lead to the weaponizaion of space, which we don’t want and we certainly don’t want this administration doing. The US feels that if Canada would agree to be involved then it would look better on the home front and maybe they could pressure some more countries to get on board too.

On the Canadian home front Martin leads a minority government, and Canadians are overwhelmingly against this proposal, especially in Quebec. Bush was pushing hard for Canadian approval on his recent visit and applied considerable pressure. The US is playing games with tariffs and bans these days and has placed large, unfair, tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber (which have been found to be unfair by NAFTA but by the time that process took its course thousands of people had lost their jobs and mills had gone bankrupt) and bans on Canadian beef (even though BSE was found on both sides of the boarder and the North American cattle industry has been integrated for years meaning that whatever is up here will also be down there). There have been suggestions that Bush offered to address these issues if Martin would support Bush’s plans to weaponize space. But this issue could have toppled Martin’s government so he really had no choice, which is a good thing.

How many more days before Bush is gone? The world will breathe a lot more easily when this group of bad actors is off the scene.

 

And that sums up what we've seen since he was elected to office. A man over his head, surrounded by bad advisors, who pulls those bad advisors ever closer, as he shuts out those who don't tell him what he wants to hear.




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"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"

- Adolf Hitler, 1935

 

That shady Hitler quote is fake

 

I will never buy another piece of Candian bacon

...unless Dominoes offers a buy 2 get 1 free topping special.

 

This is exactly how it looks from my perspective too.

The gun registry is a genuine boondoggle, though, and I’m a proponent of gun control in general. The problem with that program is that it never made any sense to begin with. It was created in the early 90’s at a time when angry, self-righteous, self-serving “political correctness” was running rampant and masquerading as truly well thought-out, self-less, genuinely progressive thinking and policy. It was in large part a response to the Montreal Massacre.
http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-70-398/disasters_tragedies/montreal_massacre/

Unfortunately it was an emotional and largely irrational initiative that many people supported uncritically largely because its proponents drew on the emotional atmosphere created in the wake of the massacre. In fact it will do nothing to control the types of weapons Lepine used (it was an illegal weapon at the time) and will create significant and largely pointless headaches for farmers and rural people who tend to own hunting rifles and shotguns. These are not the guns that are creating the bulk of our serious problems. The Toronto police chief recently said that over half of the gun crimes in Toronto have been committed with guns smuggled in from the US. Similar things are being said here in Calgary where we’ve had a rash of gun crimes and even a couple of gang related drive by shootings. Criminals have a hard time getting these guns in Canada because of our generally very effective gun control laws, but unfortunately they are spilling in over the boarder from a country that has probably the most regressive gun laws of any first world country, and consequently many Canadians are being killed by illegal American handguns.
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030218_guns/blackmarket.html
http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/TorontoSun/News/2004/02/08/340042.html

 

CANADA RULES... so quit b*tching about us....that is my argument

 

I'd rather have an Arms Race than a war like we did with the Soviet Union. Reagan's arms race bankrupted the soviet union because our capitalist system lets our government have more money than a communist/socialist system.

That arms-race may have prevented World War III, and for a while made us the unquestionable only superpower.