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Can you build a team around an injury prone big man?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BasketballReasons, Apr 12, 2009.

  1. BasketballReasons

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    Ok, so I know I might get flamed for this, but whatever.

    Hearing the recent news about Yao being out for a game or two (at best), I just can't stop to think about this.
    I think it's safe to say we have built our team for the last years around an injury prone player (Tracy McGrady), and that this hasn't brought us very far in the postseason.
    Now, it's safe to say this is Yao's team. Daryl Morey has said it. Ron Artest has said it. Heck, i'm pretty sure even McGrady would admit it.

    I love Yao, and I truely believe he is the most complete and the best center in the NBA right now (stats aren't everything -- kudos to Shane Battier). However, I have to admit it, every year i'm just so afraid that I might turn my computer on one day and see Yao's face in complete pain on the Clutchfans.com homepage, with hundreds of posters completly devasted because they just discovered Yao was out for the season.

    So my question is: Is it safe to build your team around an injury prone big man (who happens to be the best at his position)?
    Because issues like the ones we might experience right now can happen every season. The team gets ready for the playoffs, they have a chance to contend and maybe even win a title (assuming we had a team that can compete with the Lakers in 7 games), and then, at the end of the season, your big man is so tired and banged up, that he falls down. Your championship dreams just disapear...

    Yao is a great player, but I believe his body is just to much to handle. 82 games is huge and we can't really say that Rick has rested Yao a lot this season.

    So, what do you think?
     
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    /didn't read thread

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  3. DcProWLer277

    DcProWLer277 Rookie

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    No it isn't safe but it's a chance we have to take. Yao was an iron man his first 3 seasons but year round basketball has taken its toll.
     
  4. BasketballReasons

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    Don't be a child, this is a forum, it's meant to have arguments. What would it look like if we where all on the same line here?
     
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    Please define "injury prone". And then let us see who else in the league are not "injury prone".

    Thanks.
     
  6. napalm06

    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    This is a valiant effort to defend your boy Yao, but I think any reasonable person would admit that he's prone to injury - the definition of injury prone...

    Why do you think so many people create so many threads all the time asking to limit Yao's minutes? Just for fun?
     
  7. napalm06

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    You never want to build a team around an injury prone star, but in the case of Yao he is your best option. He is miles ahead of any other center (certainly ones that would be available), so its a gamble you have to take as a GM. He's medium risk high potential reward.
     
  8. littlefish_220

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    First of all, he is the best we can get in the reality world. Everybody wants LBJ, but you can't get him.

    Secondly, he is not that injury-prone (think about Amare). Yao had 2 unfortunate accidental injuries leading to a bad history for last 3 years, but for his first 3 years and this year, he is quite healthy.
     
  9. BasketballReasons

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    I'm not trying to flame Yao, as I said I wouldn't want any other player at his position. But i'm worried about the fact that he is our first option. Everyone know's that he is "injury prone" and that his body is so amazing but also so dangerous. He gets banged up all the time.
    What would be an injury prone player for me? A guy you are worried is going to break something each time he falls back on his feet or gets bumped around.
     
  10. BasketballReasons

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    But the problem is that I don't see him getting healthier. He has had a great healthy season so far, but as a player gets older, his body gets weaker (tmac in exemple) and we can't say that Yao hasn't always been used at 100% (he is almost playing every summer with his chinese team) and is a hard worker.
    To ask Yao to play or train at 70% or to take it slowly is impossible, he always wants to be the best and thats whats great about him but also is dangerous.

    I'm just not so sure we should throw all our egg's in one basket..
     
  11. kaocsaephan

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    Injury prone scrubs: Yao, T-Mac

    There.
     
  12. MiracleShot

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    well personally i only see one solution for yao not being 100% with all this playing too much mins stuff.. YOU ARE AMERICAN NOW DUDE YOU DONT NEED OR HAVE TO OR SHOULD PLAY FOR THE CHINESE TEAM EVERY SUMMER!
    They dont care about your health they just dont wanna get beat up by other countries (too late for that).




    P.S. I know i may get flamed for the china thing but seriously they dont care about his **** health.
     
  13. saleem

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    The question is a very valid one. I'm interested to see what Yao can do in the playoffs if he is healthy enough to play this year and in the season after this. If he doesn't do well management should consider trading him since his value is quite high or use him as an expiring contract.
    The risk is no longer high because of the limited length of his contract.
     
  14. redao

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    the team are winning, contending, and bringing money to their owner. NBA is a business.
     
  15. RV6

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    i have to agree that it all depends on your definition of injury prone. Yes he's been injured a good amount, but for example, when he broke his leg/foot because , i think chuck, feel on it, that was just bad luck, it happens in the NBa all the time. Other than that, he's only had that toe infection, which i think was just bad treatments, or not keeping up with it, rather than due to him being injury prone. That also happens a lot in the league, has to do more with all the stop and go and pressure on the big toe, along with sweating, etc, that make conditions perfect for a toe infection.

    this latest injury is nothin serious and yet another one of those injuries that happen because the level of ball being played, not just because a guy is injury prone. Lots of players get bone bruises.

    Its just like the utah thing, if we had just beat them ONCE, either in 07 or 08, all this "we cant beat them", "we're scared of them, and "we cant cant afford to beat utah" would go away. If Yao doesn't have just ONE of these injuries, let's say the stress fracture, then all this injury prone stuff goes away. We've lost to utah under all kinds of different situations and Yao's injuries have also come under different situations, there wasn't just one big issue for either of them that without a doubt caused the results. Just like we had bad luck with injuries and it cost us the series last year and games this year against utah, the bad luck caused injuries to Yao as well.

    the one injury that could be a direct result of wear and tear and his size is the stress fracture and they have already dealt with that by limiting his practice and running on hard surfaces, which it's been clearly stated was a bigger contributing factor than his game minutes. Just because he got a freakin bone bruise now fans are gonna say that change didn't help and he still got injured. Well no, look at the type of injury, it's not related. A bone bruise is likely to happen during ONe incident. He could sit out 81 games, not practice at all, and then come out for one game, take a bad fall or hit on the foot, and there's your bone bruise. Its mostly bad luck. Technically you can define it as injury prone, since the term applies whether a player is injured through bad luck or his own issues, but i think Yao's injuries can be managed and are being managed.
     
  16. sew

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    exactly.. we're currently leading the sw division and are in good position to make strong playoff run.

    so yes, apparently you can build around an "injury prone" star.
     
  17. Air Langhi

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    No its not a good idea to build around a injury prone player, but its not like the rockets can do anything about it. You just have to hope Yao makes it.
     
  18. TMac4Life#1

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    good thread but the question should have been can the Rockets organization build a team that doesn't involve injury prone players. If its not one of our main player one year then its the other.

    call me crazy or not but Magic Johnson cursed us when he said what he said on TNT that night we were playing that night. I forgot the team we were playing but he did say McGrady and Yao cannot play together.
     
  19. BasketballReasons

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    Hey thanks for the great answer. I have to admitt that I do kind of overreact, but its probably also because of the fact that when an NBA players gets a scratch the medical staff asks for an MRI right away.. I hope the bone bruise won't bother Yao in the playoffs...
     
  20. Chinesekid123

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    i really think we need a decent center so as to truly back up yao ming

    back to back game and against weaker teams
     

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