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Can Yao lead us to that 22 win streak instead of Tmac?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Josephduyho03, Oct 25, 2009.

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Instead of Tmac, can Yao lead us to that 22 win streak?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Josephduyho03

    Josephduyho03 Member

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    I think that when Tmac gets back, he will lead this team to the playoffs. If we happens to play against an un-experience team, we could probably beat them with a healthy Tmac on our team.

    To be honest everyone, I don't think Morey will get rid of Tmac. I think the best thing for us is to resign Tmac after this season with a reasonable contract. Because he is the best talent we can get our hands on. He is the guy that can lead this team. Yao is a good player but he cannot lead this team. Sure he is hard to find and there is no one like him out there, but just him by himself is pretty much vulnerable.

    I know Tmac has one bad season with this Rockets team but just look at how he lead this team all the seasons before. He is our man. The reason why we never got out of the first round is because this team sucks. Against Mavs, we were horrible to begin with. Against the Jazz....We had Luther head as our sixth man and Yao couldn't do anything against the Jazz in the playoff and Tmac was the only one that kept us in the series.

    Let's be honest everyone....I know most of everyone here thinks that Yao helps us win games way more than Tmac. But let's say this, during that 22 win streak, lets switch out Tmac for Yao, could Yao led us to that 22 win streak instead of Tmac?
     
  2. ClutchCityReturns

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    You are failing at posting.
     
  3. Rocketsfan86

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    1. you claimed that you know most of everyone here thinks Yao helps us win games way more than Tmac. how do you know? because there are only a few who love to pointlessly battle each sides' fanboys - not "most of everyone" are that pathetic to do so.

    2. why do you want to switch out tmac for yao during that history of 22 W streak and see?

    3. how do we do that and change history again?

    4. i may be wrong but i don't think we can go back in time and see if yao could do it during that time. if i'm correct, then who is gonna prove if yao could do it or not during that time? So...what happens if yao cannot? and what happens if he can?

    5. can you stop fantasizing?
     
  4. choujie

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    It all depends on the depth of certain position.

    Rocket had Mutombo who played out of his mind while replacing Yao, but Rockets didn't have anyone who could remotely replace Tmac at that position. Rockets did pretty well when they had Artest to take Tmac's position last season.

    BTW, Yao was in the 1st 12 games of that 22 game streak, could have been 17 had he not missed that Utah game. Alston played out of his mind as well, hitting shots he normally misses. When Alston did that, Rockets usually won. Alston hitting shots equals to Arron Brooks with a passing game and better defense, in other words, close to all star level.
     
  5. apollo33

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    this thread will lead to a fan boybattle to no where
     
  6. rockets2

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    The Rockets as a collective bunch had that 22 game streak.
     
  7. AstroRocket

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    Only idiots will commit serious opinions to this ridiculous thread.

    Lets see who they are...
     
  8. sw847

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    Exactly what i was thinking. The thing is that during the 22 streak after Yao went down, our guys played their minds out.

    And what do you mean by inexperienced playoff team that we could beat?
    What teams were u thinking. lets look at the western conference...

    Spurs (damn experienced, veterian players with a HOF coach)
    Lakers (defending Champs)
    Devener (relatively young, last year was their first proper taste of the playoffs, but they have chauncy to lead the team along with melo and a really strong front line)
    Mavs (dirk will choke but with marion, howard, kidd...that is a strong team)
    portland (young, again last year was their first, but they took us to 6 games last year. they are only getting better and we are going to have matchup issues with their bigs)
    j*zz (with a health boozar, they are still the same team that beat us twice before, but then again we have a better team around tmac than the last time)
    Suns (well they are experienced, but i feel we are on a similar level)
    hornets (they are just bad now except for paul, so i reckon we can beat them even without tmac)

    Out of those teams, the only ones I can see us winning against is suns, hornets and j*zz (if they don't have boozar and AK start crying again Lol). But what are the chances of us meeting them. Even if Tmac comes back really really strong, that is like a month into the season. I would say the BEST we can do is the 6th spot.

    I love tmac and all, so don't call me a hater, but i really don't feel that he can come back to his old self, or at least not in time. he has been away for so long from bball that it would take him at least a month to really start to be back in form again. Again, I am among the people that don't feel us making the playoffs as the best option. If tmac plays his mind out, then I can see us making the playoffs, but We WOULD get knocked out of the first round and end up with nothing. I would rather us missing the playoffs while developing our young guys (brooks, ariza, rookies...) than us relying on tmac to reach the playoffs. Also give us a chance to have a high pick in the draft next year. But if we reach the playoffs because our young guys carried us, then I would really be happy cause that means we developed a damn good team for next year when we actually have a chance to do something in the post season.

    anyway just my thoughts
     
  9. sidewider26

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    this is something nobody here wanted to acknowledge. :eek:
     
  10. the_hustler

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    ah please.. can you guys stop creating these kinda threads? its gettin too borin and outright ridiculous

    T-MAc and Yao are both rockets.. As long as it stays that way.. we must support them.. it doesnt matter who helps us win games.. its the W next to the rockets logo that matters...
     
  11. Xsatyr

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    I say no bc Yao Ming has not been the same without Tmac. Tmac is the only player we have that can make teams pay for fronting Yao. When Yao was beasting a couple years ago without Tmac he was quicker. Injuries have taken their toll and now teams just front him bc he is too slow.
     
  12. daywalker02

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    Refrain your judgment! You don't have to insult somebody. Go and vote how turrible this thread is.
     
  13. Lonestar

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    WTF, from your post, i thought YAO was not part of the 22 winning streak :eek: :eek:
     
  14. Convictedstupid

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    You think tmac leads us to the playoffs and we can somehow play a weak team...???

    What weak team? Hate to break your heart but barring catastrophic injury to the lakers, spurs, blazers or nuggets, theyre going to make it into the top 4. No way in hell do we make it into the top 4. IF we do make the playoffs were likely to play the 1 or 2 spot, most likely being the spurs or the lakers.. Thats not going to end well. Id be happy if we won 1 game in one of those series.
     
  15. BizzleRocket

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    Can T-mac lead us to the 2nd round instead of Yao? I believe that's the same answer as the question you are currently asking, T-Mac Apologist OP.
     
  16. langal

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    Yao played in the first 12 games.

    If he played in 21 of the 22, would ppl still say he wasn't part of the streak?

    No one player carries a team for 22 straight games (or actually 10 games in this case). It's a team effort. And you can't use it to prove one player being better than another.
     
  17. Williamson

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    Three words for you: Micro-fracture surgery. (Or is micro-fracture one compound word?)

    Amare Stoudamire is the only player to ever successfully come back from it, and he was very young when he did that. I'll be SHOCKED if McGrady comes back at anywhere near the level you're talking about. Until he does, there is no reason to talk about re-signing T-Mac after this season. There is also no evidence to support that he is the best talent we can get our hands on. Hell, it's completely within reason that his decline will be so severe that somebody like Ricky Davis will be a better talent. It happens. I don't think any of us thought Steve Francis would decline as quickly as he did, and he didn't have micro-fracture surgery.
     
  18. durvasa

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    We were 8-6 in the 14 games preceding Tracy's return to the team in January of that season. We won 26 of the next 27 games after his return, going 10-1 in the games Yao didn't play.

    It has to do with the makeup of the team more than anything. Yao's value to the team is mostly defensive, and McGrady's value is almost totally offensive. Without McGrady, the team would struggle over an extended stretch of games on the offensive end. This was no more clear than in the two losses to New Orleans and Philly, at home, before he returned. Our offense absolutely cratered in the second half of those games.

    Without Yao, the team could get by offensively with McGrady's playmaking, and they had Mutombo to rebound and protect the rim on defense. For that team, given the makeup of our reserves, I'd say McGrady was more valuable.
     
  19. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    TMac didn't lead anything.

    My GAWD people.......seriously........

    Yao was 16-0 in his last 16 games that year...and guess what......it was a TEAM effort there too.

    We need seperation in the GARM...something where quality posters qualify to post there.

    This is ridiculous.


    DD
     
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  20. MightyMog

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    I vow not to get into these threads anymore. You backup either one or hate on them. You are labeled. I wish I had the ability to delete all my posts on Tmac and Yao. This Garm makes me wish they were both traded.
     

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