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Can Texas go to Fiesta Bowl if Miami and Ohio State both lose 1 game?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JBIIRockets, Nov 3, 2002.

  1. JBIIRockets

    JBIIRockets Member

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    This is assuming that Texas wins out of course.

    As for how I see it right now, Texas is the best 1 loss team because their only loss was against the best team in all of football, Oklahoma. Plus. UT has sacked up and won 2 tough road games at K-State and Nebraska. And finished 3-1 in this tough four game stretch.

    But what is Washington State's situation? I do not know much about them. The GameDay crew gave them a lot of love though.

    A rematch with Oklahoma would knock my socks off. The anticipation would run rampant. Best of all, I would be there.

    Of course Miami and Ohio State have to lose.
     
  2. DVauthrin

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    No doubt about it. If that happens you will have a Red River rematch in Tempe on Jan 3rd.
     
  3. Major

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    This will be an interesting scenario. It's between Iowa, Washington State, and us.

    We'll have the advantage in the polls. I'm not sure who'll win schedule strength - they have easier conference schedules, but we had a joke of a non-conference schedule. Who knows what the computers will do. None of us will get bonus points for beating anyone of note.

    The question is if Iowa or WSU can make up 1 or 2 poll points in schedule and computers. Right now, I think it depends on too many outside factors.
     
  4. NYKRule

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    Texas has a much, much harder schedule than either of those teams.

    I don't think both Miami and OSU will lose.
     
  5. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Always better to lose early then late.

    DD
     
  6. 4chuckie

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    Good question- As others have noted you have to watch Washington State and Iowa.
    Also don't discount Notre Dame. One good game against USC and they will have the pollsters eating out of their palms again.
    Finally don't forget Va Tech. If they could beat Miami they could move back up as well.
    You have a chance but to play for a Championship shouldn't you have to win your conference. Well not always Nebraska didn't last year.

    Again it's all for not cause OSU is not going to lose!
     
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  7. Smokey

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    I don't see how any 1 loss team can jump Texas right now. Our only loss was to # 1 OU.

    If you lose to an unranked team at home this late in the year (ND and VT), you shouldn't even be considered for the national championship game.

    Miami has 2 tough games remained: @ Tenn and VT

    OU has 1...Big 12 title game

    OSU has 1...Michigan

    I don't want to predict who will stumble first, but there will not be 2 undefeated teams in Tempe.
     
  8. mduke

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    OU has 1...Big 12 title game

    Don't forget them Cowboys.
     
  9. Smokey

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    Why should a team be punished for playing in a powerful conference?

    If OU and TX are the two best teams in the country, I don't think TX should get punished for not winning the conference. OU can have the conference, we want the national title :D
     
  10. Smokey

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    I don't see how OU will lose to OSU two years in a row. Stoops may have overlooked OSU last year, but you guys will blow them away.
     
  11. red

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    im hoping fot the aggies to pull a gut check and smack the sooners this coming weekend...
     
  12. haven

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    OU is playing like the best team in the country, right now. Texas lost a close one to them. There's little to say they aren't #2.

    Unfortunately, if they play again, Texas will probably lose... unless Greg Davis has finally decided to let the offense loose.

    Notice something weird in the Nebraska game? In the 1st half, Texas couldn't convert on 3rd. In the 2nd, they did constantly.

    Know why? Davis was letting Simms throw balls past the 1st down marker.
     
  13. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    Smokey,

    Don't forget about Miami having to play Pitt. The fact that Pitt wasn't ranked this past week and Bowling Green was, was a colossal joke!

    I think Miami has a tougher chance of beating Pitt than Tennessee or Virginia Tech. Pitt is 10 points away from an undefeated season.
     
  14. The Cat

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    Are you kidding?

    Our final three games are against Baylor, Texas Tech, and the same Texas A&M team that lost to Oklahoma State and at home to Nebraska. The same Texas A&M team that gave up 48 points to Texas Tech, 38 to Nebraska, and 28 to OSU? In Austin? (mind telling me the last time Texas lost a game at home?) A&M in Austin is not that difficult of a game. Baylor is a gimme.

    Texas Tech is mediocre, and on the road, but they aren't the quality of Michigan, Purdue, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, or Virginia Tech, teams that Miami and OSU play.

    We're not going to be behind Iowa or Washington State. We're ahead in the polls, and as of last week our SOS was 16th in the nation, very very nice. It should continue to go up, and if KSU keeps winning, we will get some pretty good points for beating them. The computers have been good to us as well.

    As I said several weeks back, there was never too much reason to panic. Every single year teams around the 6-8 mark in October are counted out, because everyone sees mediocre schedules and assumes teams will win out. The fact is, there is so much parity in college football that anyone can beat anyone.

    Will OSU and Miami both lose? I'd say it's 50/50. However, out of the five games I listed above, I am pretty confident that at least one of them will go our way. If it does, it would put us in the position where an OU loss in the Big XII game would put us in Tempe, and I'd take my chances. If Colorado didn't have all the unforced errors they had yesterday, it would've been a close game, even in Norman. It seemed unnoticed, but they did have success running the ball on the OU defense. I think they'd have a decent chance on a neutral field in a rematch.
     
  15. NYKRule

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    Uhmm....swifty.....I was talking about Washington State and Iowa.
     
  16. The Cat

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    Sorry.
     
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    If Colorado didn't have all the unforced errors they had yesterday, it would've been a close game, even in Norman. It seemed unnoticed, but they did have success running the ball on the OU defense

    That game wasn't as close as the score indicated....2 missed FGs, and 2 other botched TD opportunities in the redzone......(one of which ended in a FG, there might've been more scoring opportunities, but these are just the ones I remember at the moment)

    Let's see: 2 interceptions, 1 forced fumble by Brown. That's 3 forced errors right there....Colorado made some mistakes, but don't forget to give credit where credit is due;)

    And yes, they had success running it....but Brown(who is my choice for Heisman) ran for well under his average.....I think him getting 100+yards against this D just shows how good he really is.....

    I said coming into this game that Colorado would be a very tough game, and if there is a rematch, I expect the outcome to be the same.:D
     
  18. The Cat

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    I watched the whole game... remember, Colorado missed two field goals as well, and had it in the red zone several times. In fact, they had more total yards.

    I only saw a brief clip of the Brown fumble, but with a wet football, that could've contributed. The interceptions were nice, but they're avoidable mistakes if Hodge can improve.

    CU also has a good history in preparing for rematches. Everyone talks about Simms last year in the Big 12 game, but the reality is that CU's offense played us significantly better than they did a month earlier. They found the holes, and pounded us with the running game.

    Plus, there's a world of difference in a game in Norman and the game in Houston (neutral site). Home field advantage in college football is bigger than a lot of people give it credit for...
     
  19. Refman

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    One team that has been left out of the discussion is Georgia. Georgia has one loss, and if they win out they'll have won the SEC title game. If Miami and OSU lose a game...Georgia could get back in this thing.
     
  20. The Cat

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    There's still no bonus points for conference champions, are there? Even if there are, I doubt it would be enough to cover the almost five point gap between Georgia and Texas right now. The closest team to Texas right now is Washington State, and even though Washington State has a tougher schedule coming up, it's going to be tough for that to make up three points.

    You can never say lock with the BCS, but Texas seems to have a pretty strong hold on the teams below them if they win out. If two out of Miami, OU, and OSU lose (and I wouldn't be completely shocked if all three lost, to tell you the truth), I'm pretty confident Texas will be in Tempe. Here is the projected BCS:

    http://www.geocities.com/rtell/bcsc.html
     

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