I think Carr will be a decent QB with a decent offensive line in front of him. We have tor realize that the four years he's been here the OL has sucked big time. He has an average of like 1 second to throw the ball before he is demolished! In answer to your question, I think he will be good, but not Super Bowl good.
Carr reminds me of Jake Plummer Carr cant take the team to the Superbowl by himself like Elway, Favre, Manning, Brady, Aikman. He needs to be in a "very good system/team" like Seattle, Denver, Carolina.
Do you think he can improve, play smarter (w/ a better O line)? Does he have the intangibles? Is he a leader? Do we see him rallying the troops anything remotely like an Elway or Montana?
Rally the troops? NO! ... complaining YES! He doesnt have IT in him. He's just a decent QB. 10yrs from NOW Carr NEVER be in Steve Young, Favre, Elway, Manning, Brady, Aikman level shoot he wont even be in Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon level Right now he can be replace by a Jon Kitna, Doug Johnson, Jeff George, Kelly Holcomb type QB and we'll be the same.
] Then why are you in favor of keeping him now when a potential franchise quarterback and hometown legend is sitting there ready to be picked. Especially considering he is a winner EVERYWHERE he has been. He got Madison as far as they had been in a long time/if not ever, and he completely changed the attitude of our program(UT) that will reverberate strongly for a long time to come. Not to mention all the 4th quarter/2nd half comebacks.
Send his a$$ 2 the Raiders where his college coach Pat Hill might get a job. Ill take a 2nd rounder at this point. Then watch as Warren Sapp slaps his a$$ for wanting his daddy to attend practices.
Can we trade Carr/2rd pick/ and a future 1st RD to Tenn for the #3 pick Draft Vince Young #1 and Bush #3
I seriously doubt if we had #3, that Bush would be available. Don't you think New Orleans would pick him at#2 if he were still out there. Now if we could somehow get 1 and 2, then we would be set!
Nope. The first time the Texans go (how ever many years from now) Carr may not even be in the league. (of course they could fire Casserly tomorrow and change my thinking)
Carr would only be able to take the Texans to a Superbowl as part of a very good "system" team as luckyazn posted earlier in this thread. He cannot do it by himself.
I rest my case, until Casserly is gone the chance of getting a good team is nil. Casserly went to Washington as GM the year they won the Super Bowl under Bobby Bethard's leadership as GM. It took him 4 yrs to ruin the franchise. This season is their first trip back to the playoffs.
With a good supporting cast anybody can lead you to a Super Bowl. Over the last 10 years Trent Dilfer, Chris Chandler, Brad Johnson, Kerr Collins, Neil O'Donnell, and Stan Humphries have led their team to the Super Bowl. So hell yes Carr can take you there.
I think the Texans could win a Super Bowl with car. Hell, in recent years Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson have won Super Bowls.
I wouldn't say that Trent Dilfer had "it". But he made it and won. Football is all about systems. If the Texans decide they want to keep Carr, then I think they need to prepare themselves for the possibility that he will not have what it takes to get the team there through his contributions. If he progresses, becomes a decent pocket passer that doesn't make a lot of mistakes, then this team can win with a decent line, a good defense and Reggie Bush. But the team (ie Casserly) needs to realize that is the case and not try to build an offense that is only successful if Carr performs like a franchise QB. Unfortunately, I don't have enough faith in Casserly and co. to do that, so I want Vince Young, a guy that can take you there with his abilities, and doesn't necessarily have to have a hugely talented team surrounding him. But I would not be upset with Bush since I think he can take us there too.
