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Calling out the Team Captain

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by oakdogg, May 18, 2003.

  1. oakdogg

    oakdogg Member

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    Few Rocket issues could be worthy of more debate and discussion than whether our team captain should move positions. To me, the issue encapsulates more than just a position switch. What motive is behind the move? What is the difference in responsibilities?

    The point guard is the leader. The point guard makes the decisions. The point guard gets the most out of his teammates to help the team win. I want our team captain to want to be this, the point guard.

    A move to the shooting guard would be, to me, a resignation, a failure on Steve's part. He comes into the league, demanding a trade because he wants to be a point guard, and now he reverses his mind? Why has this "experiment" of Steve at the 1 not worked out? Is he physically incapable of excelling at the position? I defy one person to articulate a winning argument supporting that conclusion. The only reason, as I see it, is that he does not want to be bothered with the added responsibilities of raising the level of his teammates' game on offense. Well then, he needs to turn his team captain title as well, because that's what a team captain does.
     
  2. jo mama

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    i see the move to SG as an admission that steve cannot play the point. trying to fix a problem more so than making improvements.

    steve sucks as a point and it shows fan ignorance when they vote him to start the all-star game. why do yall think that he did not get picked to be on the olympic team, despite begging for it at every opportunity? cause the olympic coaches know that w/ steve running the point we will get embarrased again like in indy. if i was trying to win, i wouldnt want "franchise" on my team either.

    "sucks" is pretty harsh, how about "average at best." dont get me wrong, he is a good scorer, just not a good PG.
     
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  3. SLA

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    If I was trying to win, I would want "francise" on my team.

    Francis, Bryant, McGrady, Duncan, and Shaq. I'd want him.
     
  4. TheFreak

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    Point or shooting guard doesn't matter. When Michael Jordan won championships, he had Armstrong, a 'point' guard opposite him one or two years, and Paxson and Harper, both 'shooting' guards the other years. Harper used to be a Jordan clone, for crying out loud. It didn't make one bit of difference. Jordan still got the ball the same amount of times, and did the same things with it. NO team needs a 'pure point guard' to win, just like no team NEEDS a pure center, a pure power forward, shooting guard, or small forward.
     
  5. jo mama

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    it would be hard for steve to loose w/ that lineup. those guys could make him look like the second comming of magic johnson.

    but why would larry brown want him when he could have kidd or payton (or even t.j. ford)? steve is not a good point and that is why he is not on the team, despite begging for the job and being an allstar starter and being one of the supposed "premier" players in the league. larry brown wants winners, not posers.
     
  6. Apollo Creed

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    The T.J. Ford jock riding makes me sick. He's not going to be much of anything in this league, and suggesting that the olympic team would be better off with him instead of Steve is nothing short of idiotic.
     
  7. couch_pot8o

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    steve is worthy to be an olympian. you know players that can be point and run the team smoothly and be at sg and torch the net at the same time.. only few.. to mention a few, iverson can, payton did.. have you ever seen kobe or tmac run plays. no. they are the "plays". stevie can run the play and score double digits at the same time. so i dont get it why dont you want to build a team around steve francis.

    dream team:
    shaq/ben wallace
    duncan/ jermaine o'neal
    garnett/paul pierce
    kobe/tmac
    francis/iverson

    i think the olympic committee made a wrong move of choosing bibby over stevie. no offense to bibby. bibby is one of the pure pg's in the game, but if im going to build a dream team, francis will run the point.
     
  8. Sane

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    That's the problem. For Steve to be a great PG, he needs to be surrounded by players that are SO MUCH BETTER THAN HIM, to the point where he BELIEVES that their chances of scoring is higher than his.

    Do you think he believes Eddie Griffin can score on his man 5 feet from the basket better than him taking his man down the whole court and going to the hole? No way.

    Steve can be a PG, but for OUR team, he's better suited as a SG.
     
  9. jo mama

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    t.j. is a better point than steve, w/out even playing in the nba yet. and i wasnt suggesting he play, cause he wont (notice i said "EVEN t.j.", not "t.j. should play").

    i like him, but i dont want him on the team if it means moving francis to the two. that would be the smallest backcourt in the league. t.j. will do very well in the nba, but not w/ us.

    fact is, steve is not a great pg and if i was putting together a team of the best players at their respective positions than steve would be way down on my PG list. why do you think he is not on the olympic team despite begging for the job, being an all star STARTING point and being one of the supposed "premier" players? its cause the olympic coaches have a much higher quality pool of points to pick from. unless steve learns to play his position and stop watching and 1 mix tapes he will never play on the olympic team.

    suggesting steve is a better point than t.j is "nothing short of idiotic."
     
  10. jo mama

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    arent "franchise" players supposed to make their teammates better? arent great point guards supposed to make their teammates better? shouldnt max contract players be able to get a "greatest team ever assembled" to the playoffs at least once in 4 years?
     
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    The answer is yes to all of those questions. Which is why after four years in the league, the only thing Steve has proven is that he is NOT a franchise player.
     

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