California Supreme Court Strikes Down Same-Sex Marriage Ban

Yes! Great news.

 

Gay? Or Divorce Lawyer?

 

I don't get it what the big deal if Gay people want to get married. Its not like its hurting anyone else. Even some democrats say that gay people can't get married.

 

fixed.

 

Neither, just a fan of equal rights.

 

I think most Democratic politicians are not in favor of marriage. Or they are at least to scared to admit it.

 

My sister is gay and she's against gay marriage. I guess I'm kinda for it, it just doesn't register in my top 10 issues, or even top 100.

 

what

 

She says that gay people have gotten along fine for thousands of years without marriage, they shouldn't start now. I'm sure she's in the minority of gays, but I've heard others that say the same thing.

 

I don't follow that logic at all (not saying you do, either).

A lot of things that suck have been around for all of human history. A lot of good things have just emerged recently.

 

I don't understand why people get so heated about this argument. If 2 people love each other enough to want to spend their lives together then let them get married. Who does it hurt? I know a few same-sex couples who have children. They are great kids who live in a loving household. There is absolutely no drawback other than having to deal with the bigots who have no logical reason to be against it.

 

She's right, and even if it were legal, no gay couple would have to get married. They could continue to get along without it if they chose. But the opportunity that is available to heterosexuals should also be available to homosexuals IMO.

I wasn't trying to argue, since you've said you are probably in favor, and you are just relaying your sister's feelings. I was just commenting on them.

 

Gays actually haven't gotten along fine for a thousand years, but I suppose that is for another discussion.

 

good point Kad.

For what it's worth none of McCain, Hillary or Obama are in favour of gay marriage. (threw that in just because we don't have enough political bickering ).

 

Interestingly, Schwarzenegger said he will uphold the ruling and he's against trying to pass a Constitutional Amendment to reverse it. On the other hand, there's already a movement in place, and it's almost certain that there will be a ballot initiative in November for that Constitutional Amendment. A different form of it passed several years ago with 63% of the vote. Will be very interesting to follow the politics of this.

 

Marrige limitations have always seemed unconstitutional to me under "equal protection". Marrige should be a civil contract, agreed to by the participating parties and filed in the county records.

An easy example would be a gay man in a hospital needing a next of kin to make decisions about his well being. If he has a marital relationship with a another person and an estranged relationship with his parents, who should make choices on his behalf?

Why would social security benefits pass to a childless wife but not pass to a partner of a civil union?

A civil rights attorney could probably come up with a 100 of these types of arguments.

 

I've always wondered about this freakish issue.. my goodness, is this crap contradictory! seriously, "same sex marriage" is an oxymoron.. I mean, they can marry and all and live together and screw each other, I don't care, they're entitled to do so, but why do you want a freaking binding contract? in fact, what's the whole purpose of hetero marriage in the first place? it's to ensure that the couple will split their money if a separation occurs, which helps protect the kids future to a certain extent.. since the possibility of offspring isn't applicable for homosexual relationships, why do they insist on getting married?

once again, nothing against them, perfectly fine with it, I just think that the idea of marriage is absolutely r****ded.. in fact, all "legal" hetero marriage is r****ded.. when people wanna get married, they can just do it informally and roll with it.. there shouldn't be a "binding contract"

 

Spousal insurance benefits, inheritances.

Adoption and artificial insemenation. I guess barren, menopausal women or impotent men shouldn't be getting married, either. Or couples that use birth control, cuz they won't be having kids.

 

there's very little binding about a marriage under the law. i'd argue it's typically more difficult to work through a commercial partnership dissolution than a divorce.