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By George...a possible answer for our small forward woes?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by yao ming, Jun 14, 2002.

  1. yao ming

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    ESPN Insider had an article this morning about this off season's free agent class. The following blurb got me thinking about George playing the 3 for us.

    Devean George, F, L.A. Lakers
    Before you start laughing, remember this one fact. Last year we put Eddie Robinson in this slot. The year before that, Rashard Lewis. Our point? Every year there is a young, athletic scorer who will get paid on sheer upside alone. George had an inconsistent year, but his performance in Game 4 of the Finals showed his potential. The Lakers made a major mistake not tendering him an offer last summer. Now George wants to spread his wings a little and get away from the shadow of Shaq and Kobe. With his tough defense and three-point shooting, a team like the Sixers, Heat or Nuggets could make him an offer.

    George could be had (probably) for just a piece of the middle class exception and therefore wouldn't break the bank and would allow us to bring any small forward we draft at 15 along more slowly. We could fill a need and weaken the evil Lakers a little bit for good measure! ;) Thoughts?
     
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    I think he certainly has potential and he seems to have a good three point shot. I would seriously think about it, if we could not get anyone else that is more proven. The question that I wonder about is his defense. To be honest I have not followed his play until the Finals, and I am not aware of how good he is on D.
     
  3. DearRock

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    It is interesting that LAK would be looking at Woods when there is someone like George there. He has some serious hops. He deserves consideration.
     
  4. verse

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    DGeorge is an above average defender with a respectable jumper. moreso, rudy was very interested in drafting george out of college.

    that said, he'll require ALL of the midclass exception, not just part of it. he has a great body, championship experience, and a fair amount of "upside".

    i'd do it. in fact, i'd do that before i'd sign rashard lewis to a max contract. we already will have three potential max players on the roster next year in (1) francis, (2) ming, and (3) griff. if what we are trying to do is build a dynasty, we need to start putting the correct pieces (good priced pieces) around them. mobley is an excellent piece. motay, assuming he recovers from his injury 100%, is an excellent piece. george would be an excellent piece, as well.

    next step after george would be a punch-you-in-the-grill thug. someone to protect not only francis and mobley, but griff and ming, too. does trick daddy play ball? i know master p does, but he'd rather shoot than punch.

    "baby cuz i'm a thug"
     
  5. Drew_Le

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    I was thinking the same thing about George. He reminds me of a young Robert Horry. He can shoot, play some D, rebound, and run the floor. I like his game, and he won't take up much cap space.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    This thread came up a couple of weeks ago. Devean George is not worth it. The Lakers are described as Shaq, Kobe, Horry, Fox and a bunch of CBA players and Devean George fits that description to a T.
     
  7. GATER

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    Devean George's stats are pretty paltry:

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/devean_george/index.html?nav=page

    The Lakers have Full Bird Right for George and my understanding is that they could (not that they would) offer George a Max contract (or anything in between).

    So there are the competing elements of:
    1A) Would George consider leaving the Lakers gravy train?
    1B) Is a starting position enough to lure Devean George?
    2) How much is George worth to other NBA teams if he would leave?
    3) Since the Lakers can basically match any offer, how high is too high for them? (The Rockets only have the MCE).

    Personally, I'm not a big Devean George fan. I don't care much for Eduardo Najera either, but would prefer him to George (and Dallas only has Early Bird Rights). I know I'm in a minority but I like Lee Nailon.
     
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    I proposed it and was RIPPED TO SHREDS!!

    Rocket River
     
  9. GATER

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    That was from a Jim Rome quote and for the record, Rome included Fox and Horry as part of the Lakers group of CBA'ers.

    "In other words, outside of the big two, what you have is a completely depleted bench and role players that either don't understand or can't play their roles."

    http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=451676
     
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    I'd rather have Walt Williams than Devean George. He sucks. I see no potential, other than the role of a decent backup player.

    It's funny that ESPN is j!zzing on itself by saying they "predicted" Eddie Robinson. Everyone knew he would be ridiculously overpaid because he had a few flash in the pan games. Like George, he's an overrated player who should be a backup SF.
     
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    I have watched George tons of times. That game 4 was a great game for him, and in my opinion the best I've seen him play. He isn't that good, actually he's very inconsistent and too hyper. He gets into foul trouble quickly especially for offensive fouls, he's quick to the basket but doesn't think about how to go around someone only over them for a dunk and offensive foul(seems like he does that every game though it's fun to watch). He is a high flying big guard/ small forward that can dunk with the best of them.

    He's very athletic and has a good built body. His shot comes and goes and more than not I'm always hesitant when he shoots, sorta like how some of you guys feel about Morris when he takes a shot. He dribbles ok but he's not a play maker. His defense is overrated in my opinion, but it's better than average. I don't think he's that good at guarding players that are bigger than him. He is full of energy though, he could probably run all game long and not be tired. If i were to compare him to a player out there I'd say he's similar to Tyrone Nesby. But he does have the potiential to get much better with more playing time since Phil doesn't play him enough. But I rather have Corey Maggette who is similar but with a more consistent outside shot and a strong rebounder.

    Off topic there is a SF player I like that is out of Los Angeles too, that we might want to draft in the second round. Matt Barnes from UCLA, he's not as quick or athletic as CM or DG, but he does creates shots for his teamates, loves to pass to the open man(he does those quick touch passes to the open man) and rebounds and plays D fairly well. He also plays an intelligent game sorta like shane battier. I think he's worth a try.
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    What does Devean George give us that Terrence Morris does not right now? I don't see it. I guess George might be better at creating his own shot (albeit still inconsistant) but that is it. I don't see it as ENOUGH of an upgrade to sign him. If we want to upgrade over Morris/Rice then let's "upgrade"!

    Chris
     
  14. JoeBarelyCares

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    Wasn't the rumor that Jerry West wanted to sign George for Memphis?
     
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    Phil Jackson is supposedly very concerned about the Lakers chances of resigning George. He doesn't want to lose him.

    This is from ESPN Insider...

    "The critical thing is Devean George," coach Phil Jackson said. "We do know there's a good chance he may be taken from our roster. There may not be a whole lot we can do about it."

    George has hinted in the past that he wants a more high-profile role, and will play the free-agent market in an attempt to find it.
     
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    I agree with Gater. I think Nailon would fit this team perfectly, but he might take up more than the MLE. He has HUGE potential. He had some HUGE games last year. One was a triple-double or very near a triple double where he had like 16 rebounds and 28pts. I dunno how many assists. He put up some good scoring and blocking numbers. I think he is the best free agent worth signing. By the way, didnt he go to college at like Texas Tech or somewhere in Texas?
     
  17. GATER

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    Lee Nailon went to TCU -

    * Named Honorable Mention All-America by The Associated Press in 1999.
    * Named 3rd Team All-America in 1998.
    * Made the 1st Team All-Conference in 1999.
    * Named WAC Player of the Year in 1997-98.
    * Holds Texas Christian University individual game scoring record with 53 points.
     
  18. Two Sandwiches

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    Where is he from?Do you think he would take a discount to play with us, considering he is from TCU (grew up in Texas?) and the fact we will be getting Ming?
     
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    For the record, the Hornets are still waiting for Nailon to defend somebody. He is a gun. Pure offense. Absolutely has no clue on defense. If you want a scorer, he is your man.
     
  20. Hydra

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    3pt%
    George - 37% :)
    Morris - 19% :eek:
     

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