If this poll has been done before, lock it up (this board needs a search function) if it's between Butler/Haywood and Iggy/Dalambert, that's a tough call Butler/Haywood have far better contracts in theory, but what happens if/when you want to resign them (will Haywood demand alot more?). Butler and Iggy have similar stats offensively, but from what I've gathered Iggy is a better defender (haven't seen them play enough). Haywood statistically is slightly better than Dalembert, and his contract is far better. I would lean toward Butler/Haywood, but Iggy's athleticism sure is tempting, especially with our defense stinking up the joint lately.
It has one For contributing members I'll take Iggy/Dalembert because I'm not very high on Butler, plus we already have 3 SF on the roster. Only reason to do the Wizards deal is to avoid the long-term obligation to AI.
I like Iguodala more than Butler, but his contract is too much, I think. Haywood/Dalembert is a push, but I'll lean towards Haywood because, again, his contract is better (expires this year). Both of them would be merely a stopgap and paint protector until Yao returns, so Dalembert's contract would be almost useless after this season. Butler/Haywood gives us a lot more financial flexibility and relief. If it doesn't work out, we won't be married to him for 4 years, either.
i was all for iggy and thought the butler deal lacked sex appeal. but if the iggy deal doesnt work out, we are pretty much hosed for quite some time. getting butler allows morey to do his thing next year, and years to come. i cant imagine morey wanting his hands tied.
if the Wiz want assets just to get Butler and Haywood, then we should concentrate on Phila they actually have other players to involve with Iggy and Dalembert that might make giving up assets less painful. We can shed salary in Battier, or future salary with Scola, Lowry (obviously love all 3 but it's a business) because Thadeus Young, Jrue Holiday, or Speights can hopefully head over.
I don't know why everybody prefers Iggy over Butler ... Iggy has a lot of potential and talent, but his career numbers are not good enough for a SG. I prefer Butler (and Haywood), more experience and his contract expires in 2011.
Iggi is better player but Caron has much better contract. And I dont think the talent differential between the 2 is sufficient enough for us to not only take on $70 mil more in salary (Iggi and Dalembert) and lose flexibility for the next few years, but also risk losing Scola and / or Lowry in the offseason. At the end of the day I'll be happy with either, but Caron makes more sense.
A look at the salaries further validates how good this trade for Butler could be. Assuming we pick up the options on Dorsey (unknown) and Hayes (assumed) and Yao exercises his option, we'd have $37,466,189 tied up with everyone else expiring (Scola, Lowry, McGrady, Cook, Barry). Now, assume we trade McGrady/Budinger for Butler/Haywood/James. Removing Budinger from our salary situation and adding Butler (not bothering with Haywood/James since they expire), our salary situation would have $47,247,278 tied up with Lowry/Scola still un-signed. If we managed to keep Budinger somehow, it'd be about $48 million. So what will the salary cap be next season? According to the news, the NBA isn't losing as much money as they thought they would, so the $50M cap suggestions before were premature and probably underestimating the cap. The 2009-2010 salary cap is $57.7M. Let's assume the 2010-2011 salary cap lands somewhere in between at $54M. That gives us only $6M to sign Lowry or Scola. We could sign Lowry easily, probably for about $3M. Scola is going to be more expensive than that remaining $3M, however. I'm not sure he's worth much more than the MLE however, and he might be willing to accept that. Either way, I'm fairly confident we could keep both especially since we can go over the game to re-sign our own players (we wouldn't have to go very far over). We could possibly even save our MLE for another addition (maybe keep Haywood?). If we were to trade only McGrady for Iguodala/Dalembert, we would have $62,011,439 tied up. Already, we'd be well over the salary cap and re-signing Lowry/Scola would probably bleed us well into the luxury tax threshold and would be difficult to re-sign. Salary-wise, Butler/Haywood is the obvious choice. I don't think the upgrade from Butler to Iguodala is worth the price we'd have to pay.
Yeah, like some others have said, I like Iguodala more than Butler as a player, but Butler's got a more favorable contract. He may be a better fit next to Brooks and Ariza as well. This is a tough choice to me. It depends on what other moves the Rockets can make. A lot has been written on how acquiring Iguodala/Dalembert will restrict our ability to make other moves.
What´s up with all the people thinkin Iggy is better than Butler? If you really watch how they play, Butler is far more talented. Most of the guys on clutchfans don´t seem to watch any teams besides Houston, the judging here is pretty poor and biased.
Love Iggy and Sammy but it would take some VERY nice accounting to make is feasible. Butler and Haywood sound like a Morey type move while keeping the CAP flexibility intact also think Haywood is a better player then Sammy with a MUCH better contract.
if you guys think Iggy might turn into another Ariza with his inability to shoot the 3 Butler is shooting at a 27% clip from 3
