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Bush to Seek More Money for the Arts

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  1. MadMax

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    Without commenting on the merit of the idea (which I really haven't thought through)....WHO IS THIS GUY??

    http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/29/p...200&partner=GOOGLE&pagewanted=print&position=

    Bush Is Said to Seek More Money for Arts
    By ROBERT PEAR

    ASHINGTON, Jan. 28 — President Bush will seek a big increase in the budget of the National Endowment for the Arts, the largest single source of support for the arts in the United States, administration officials said on Wednesday.

    The proposal is part of a turnaround for the agency, which was once fighting for its life, attacked by some Republicans as a threat to the nation's moral standards.

    Laura Bush plans to announce the request on Thursday, in remarks intended to show the administration's commitment to the arts, aides said.

    Administration officials, including White House budget experts, said that Mr. Bush would propose an increase of $15 million to $20 million for the coming fiscal year, which begins Oct. 1. That would be the largest rise in two decades and far more than the most recent increases, about $500,000 for 2003 and $5 million for this year.

    The agency has a budget of $121 million this year, 31 percent lower than its peak of $176 million in 1992. After Republicans gained control of Congress in 1995, they cut the agency's budget to slightly less than $100 million, and the budget was essentially flat for five years.

    In an e-mail message inviting arts advocates to a news briefing with Mrs. Bush, Dana Gioia, the poet who is chairman of the endowment, says, "You will be present for an important day in N.E.A. history."

    Mr. Gioia (pronounced JOY-uh) has tried to move beyond the culture wars that swirled around the agency for years. He has nurtured support among influential members of Congress, including conservative Republicans like Representatives Charles H. Taylor and Sue Myrick of North Carolina. He has held workshops around the country to explain how local arts organizations can apply for assistance.

    Public support for the arts was hotly debated in the 1990's. Conservatives complained that the agency was financing obscene or sacrilegious works by artists like Robert Mapplethorpe and Andres Serrano. Former Senator Jesse Helms, Republican of North Carolina, repeatedly tried to eliminate the agency.

    Some new money sought by Mr. Bush would expand initiatives with broad bipartisan support, like performances of Shakespeare's plays and "Jazz Masters" concert tours.

    Mrs. Bush also plans to introduce a new initiative, "American Masterpieces: Three Centuries of Artistic Genius." This would combine art presentations — from painting and literature to music and dance — with education programs. The program would give large numbers of students around the country a chance to see exhibitions and performances.

    New York receives a large share of the endowment's grants. But under federal law, the agency also gives priority to projects that cater to "underserved populations," including members of minority groups in urban neighborhoods with high poverty rates.

    The president's proposal faces an uncertain future at a time of large budget deficits.

    Melissa Schwartz, a spokeswoman for the Association of Performing Arts Presenters, an advocacy group, said, "We'll be fighting tooth and nail for the increase."

    Some conservatives, like Representative Tom Tancredo, Republican of Colorado, vowed to oppose the increase. Even without support from the government, he said, "art would thrive in America."

    Representative Louise M. Slaughter, a New York Democrat who is co-chairwoman of the Congressional Arts Caucus, said she was delighted to learn of Mr. Bush's proposal.

    "There's nothing in the world that helps economic development more than arts programs," Ms. Slaughter said. "It was foolish for Congress to choke them and starve them. We should cherish the people who can tell us who we are, where we came from and where we hope to go."

    Mr. Tancredo expressed dismay. "We are looking at record deficit and potential cuts in all kinds of programs," he said. "How can I tell constituents that I'll take money away from them to pay for somebody else's idea of good art? I have no more right to do that than to finance somebody else's ideas about religion."

    The agency has long had support from some Republicans, like Representatives Christopher Shays of Connecticut and Jim Leach of Iowa.

    "Government involvement is designed to take the arts from the grand citadel of the privileged and bring them to the public at large," Mr. Leach said. "This democratization of the arts ennobles the American experience."


    Elisabeth Bumiller contributed reporting for this article.
     
  2. basso

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    fantastic news...arts education in this country is so pathetic/non-existent. nice to see W think outside the box.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    This is terrific. I hope this really does get more funding. I'm still a little incredulous, but I love the idea.
     
  4. Cesar^Geronimo

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    I disagree. With a record deficit and non-essential spending should be cut - decreased not increased.

    I am all for the arts but not at the expense of the budget.

    I understand that the Arts buget by itself is not a huge part of the overall budget but if we trimmed other non-essential spending who knows where it could go.

    If we want to make sure our kids are exposed to the arts we should do it --- if we want to make sure underprivileged children are exposes to the arts join an organization that promotes them, raises funds and provides those oppurtunities --- don't simply count on the goverment to do it.

    If we had a budget surplus I would be on the other side of this debate
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    I *eagerly* await Batman Jones' opinion on this topic. This will post a real dilemma for him.
     
  6. Buck Turgidson

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    "There's nothing in the world that helps economic development more than arts programs,"
    - Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, D-Pluto

    That's seriously the funniest thing I've read in a while.

    If Bush & Congress are going to completely ignore the deficit and throw money around, the least they can do is give some to the arts.
     
  7. The Real Shady

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    Hitler was also into the Arts.

    - Joe Liberal
     
  8. basso

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    and we know Bush=Hitler...
     
  9. Oski2005

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    This is good news, but if it was a Dem president doing it, there's no way people like T_J or Bama or Texxx are happy with it.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    What about you? Are you for this?

    As long as it doesn't come with any stipulations (for example, no controversial pieces), then I think this is a great idea. Kudos President Bush.
     
  11. El_Conquistador

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    $15 million dollars is a meaningless zit on the backside of an elephant in terms of the federal budget. I like the move because it throws a bone to a group of malcontents and temporarily appeases them in time for the election.

    I also support bringing p*rnography under the purview of the National Endowment for the Arts.
     
  12. nyquil82

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    ill support it if he takes a quarter oreo cookie out of defense expenditures.
     
  13. Rocketman95

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    I'm guessing that those malcontents still won't be voting for Bush. So, they get the money and he still doesn't get the vote. Sounds good to me.
     
  14. bamaslammer

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    That is perhaps the most assinine statement ever made by any elected official. Strike up another dumbass decision by the Diet Coke of Liberals, George Bush. Could he do anything more to piss me off? The govt., especially at the Federal level, does not need to be in the business of redistributing my hard-earned dollars to fund "art."
     
  15. bamaslammer

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    I'm not happy with it no matter who does it. I'm about principles, not about party. It is one of many wasteful and dangerous domestic policies that Bush has pursued to the consternation of fiscal conservatives everywhere.
     
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    I don't think this bone appeases anybody.

    I don't think this "meaningless zit" will fool anyone into thinking Bush actually gives a crap about supporting the Humanities.

    This move is clearly an election year stunt and anyone with a brain can clearly see that.
     
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    Even war has to be designed.
     
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    :D
     
  19. thadeus

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    I think the NEA will happily take this money (and they should), but I doubt it will really trick anyone into voting for Bush who wouldn't have voted for him otherwise.

    But then, I suppose it is entirely possible to overestimate the intelligence of the voting public.
     
  20. rimrocker

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    First, I agree with TJ, this is an election year press release and the money is budget dust.

    Second, I also think it is another empty chunk of rhetoric that like several others, will end up not being funded in the end.

    Third, if by some miracle the funding does go through, I suspect it will be directed more to crafts than arts.
     

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