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Bush Sending Troops to Georgia

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. glynch

    glynch Member

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    Way to go Bush-Cheney-McCAin. This should really help the military industrial complex. Maybe they can start another war.

    I doubt a war will start there, but how does it help to increase Russian paranoia. They will undoubtedly ratchet up their opposition to us. I guess we can forget any cooperation wrt to Iran.

    Oh goodie. Can we have an Iran attack.

    Who is a bigger war mongerer? Bush, McCain, Putin or Shavaskaskili sp?
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    US troops to fly in to Georgia

    AP
    Wednesday, 13 August 2008
    George Bush makes a statement today on the situation in Georgia, standing alongside with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Washington
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    The US is to send troops to embattled Georgia in the form of a humanitarian aid exercise, President George Bush announced today.

    Mr Bush said military planes would deliver supplies in a move which would put American forces in the heart of the region.

    The president said he was concerned that Russia might be violating the cease-fire in Georgia and he expected all Russian forces to withdraw.

    He is also sending Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Paris for talks with EU peacemakers and then to Georgia to express solidarity with the democratically elected government there.

    Mr Bush spoke after meeting his national security team over the crisis in Russia.

    He said he strongly supported France's efforts to broker an end to the fighting.

    Mr Bush said that Russia must allow the US and other countries to deliver humanitarian assistance in Georgia.

    "The United States stands with the democratically elected government of Georgia and insists that the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia be respected," Mr Bush said.

    He also announced that the massive US humanitarian effort was already in progress and would involve US Naval forces as well as aircraft. ...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/us-troops-to-fly-in-to-georgia-893917.html
     
  2. Apollo Creed

    Apollo Creed Contributing Member

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    Your title is misleading. You could at least mention it's in the form of humanitarian aid.
     
  3. moestavern19

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    Yeah, we get enough propaganda from the trolls, Please stick only to the facts.

    This is not "sending troops into battle"

    you're jumping to way too many conclusions.
     
  4. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    An interesting development. We'll have to see how this turns out. I'll start getting seriously worried if the US Navy in the Med sorties into the Black Sea towards the coast of Georgia. That would be extremely hairy, my friends.



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  5. mc mark

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    Wouldn't the Peace Corps be more suited for humanitarian aid?
     
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    You really think this administration deserves any benefit of the doubt?
     
  7. SamFisher

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    A plane filled with supplies is troops? Come on that's a bit of a stretch.

    It looks like the headline writer for the UK paper is the one taking liberties here.
     
  8. moestavern19

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    All we have are the simple facts at this juncture. The facts are the facts, you walk a thin line between conspiracy theory paranoia and skepticism when you assume.

    If this administration is accused of getting involved in global conflicts for its own personal interest, what possible interest would there be in this situation?
     
  9. SamFisher

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    No but that doesn't change the fact that a cargo plane crewed with airmen and presumably an officer or two that lands and then takes off is NOT the same as "sending troops to XYZ" as the term is conventionally understood.

    To take another example, American ships occasionally dock in foreign ports in places like Turkey and Japan - does that mean the US is sending troops into those countries? Not really.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Misleading title for sure.


    But I think this is the right response. Show that we aren't completely abandoning them, send them aid. But Georgia has to realize how foolish it was for them to provoke Russia.

    Don't tease a tiger.
     
  11. Deckard

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    Sam, the impression I'm getting is that our troops are going to occupy at least part of the main airport at the Georgian capitol. We'll have troops there who may be "support" units, but we'll also have to have troops there to insure their security. We'll be flying numerous aircraft into, and out of, a war zone. The Russian army is parked 40 miles from there. Yes, it's a big deal.

    I'm a bit more concerned about the mention of US Navy personel. That implies, at least to me, that we intend to make sure the Georgian coast, at least the crucial (to the US and Europe) part, remains Georgian. Any time you get navies in close proximity to each other, things can get pretty hairy very quickly. Those warships, on both sides, are trained to have a hair trigger when it comes to protecting themselves. A missle launched at a percieved threat, even by mistake, could "blow up" very quickly into major conflict.

    We need to be very careful.



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  12. updawg

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    it might be a dangerous idea to send US troops into an explosive area. why chance something going wrong. one of those planes accidentally getting shot at will set off a powder keg.

    Couldn't the red cross or some other organization do this?

    Just wondering
     
  13. pgabriel

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    I agree with sam, but I also have to say, I don't want troops over there. but I wouldn't want civilians in the middle of a war zone either. I would just rather not be there, period. we have enough going on.
     
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    The Red Cross, for sure... not the Peace Corps. It's a very dangerous situation. No doubt about that.




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  15. basso

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    uhm, guys, we already have troops there, as do the israelis, in the form of advisors and military trainers. this is important symbolically, the more so since condi is going, and i have trouble imagining the russinas will attack tbilisi if the US Sec State is there.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    A C-17 filled with medical supplies and bedding landed. You can call this "troops" if you want but it's not.

    Simply because Bush has been incompetent and stupid in many aspects doesn't absolve him of the responsibility to act when necessary. Russian aggression here shouldn't go unresponded too no matter who is president. By any definition this is very measured response.
     
  17. glynch

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    Perhaps it was misleading. Bush is sending troops in and it is true that is allegedly only for humanitarian purposes. I'm sorry, but I don't trust Bush when it comes to foreign adventures. I think as the minimum it is to confront the Russians. Why send the navy? I think this is engaging in more brinkmanship.
     
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    If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, den shoot that lying summa' b**** goose and supa' down!
     
  19. Deckard

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    I'm giving you my impression of what's unfolding, Sam. We'll see what happens, obviously.



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  20. danny317

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    maybe the support troops are there to make sure the pipeline that bypasses russia is not damaged by the russian incursion.
     

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