Bush & Saudi Royal Family: Working For Bush Re-Election...

Shouldn't this post have been redacted by now?

 

An attempt at humor, referring to the phantom '28 pages.'

This is the same Prince Bandar who not only promised to lower fuel costs to re-elect President Bush, but, per Woodward, met with the administration to discuss the confidential Iraqi war plan labelled, "No foreign," before even Powell knew of it, and is the same Bandar (through his wife, I believe) who is also suspected of funding Al Qaeda.

What I should have said, and meant: Impeach the SOB.

 

Bush has the Midas Touch. He's turned every issue into black gold.

 

I wonder if all those guys who were going crazy about Chinese money influencing the Clinton reelections are going to say anything about Saudis manipulating oil prices to get GW Bush reelected.

 

"... The end of July 2002, they need $700 million, a large amount of money for all these tasks. And the president approves it. But Congress doesn't know and it is done. They get the money from a supplemental appropriation for the Afghan War, which Congress has approved. ... Some people are gonna look at a document called the Constitution which says that no money will be drawn from the treasury unless appropriated by Congress. Congress was totally in the dark on this." from Woodward via Rimrocker.

The Woodward book and 60 Minutes program are very important.

1) This shows that the Iraq War did detract from the Afghanistan -Bin Laden effort.

2) It may be illegal and impeachable if they spent money for Afghanistan on the War on Iraq BEFORE CONGRESS GAVE APPROVAL FOR THE WAR. Isn't Congress supposed to approve these expendituresl

 

If this was the case, shouldn't the Saudis have dropped oil prices already so that the economy has a chance to benefit from them? I mean when I heard Woodward say that, I figured it would have minimal effect if they do this say, late summer or early fall. Sure the market is future looking, but freight costs, etc. won't decline as fast as oil prices.

 

Big difference, hoss. The Chinese, through their cutouts, passed tons of campaign dollars along with the Indonesians to Clinton's campaign. The Saudis are simply showing respect for Bush's family connections with their royal family. I may not like this buddy-buddy relationship, but if it lowers gas prices, fine by me.

 

So we have a second October surprise from the Bush family. Who would have thunk it. First they collaborate with the Iranian state supporting terrorists and now they collaborate with the Saudis who spawned the 9/11 terrorists. They sure love them terrorists.

 

October surprise? Total horsepuckey. It is simply a fabrication of your conspiracy-theory happy existence. All that is simply the kind of stuff that you little liberal scamps love to parrot in your Democrat Underground dens of left-wing looniness. Put down the crack pipe and step away....slowly.

 

Hey, as long as he doesn't have to pay much for gas, he's for it!

 

Oh lord. Here we go again. I know you libs think that every Republican administration after Nixon is fundamentally corrupt, because you folks believe at your core that all conservatives are evil, heartless clods who are the most dangerous force on planet Earth. Nixon was a paranoid, scary man who made a lot of mistakes, but the break-in and resulting cover-up were just the culmination. Nixon is perhaps the most evil figure in American politics to me. Why you ask? Because he ushered in decades of liberal dominance in Congress, which led to a muzzling of the CIA (Frank Church, burn in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and years of fiscal mismanagement and needless expansion of the powers and scope of the Imperial Federal Govt.

I've got news for you, bud, the sad-sack attempts to pin some silly, made-up scandal on the Bush administration is not working. Why not try to defeat them with ideas versus just trying to tar and feather them via scandal?

Well, let me go ahead and answer that question. Simply put, if liberals ran on their ideas of higher taxes, internationalist foreign policy and decreased economic freedom, they always have (Mondale, Dukakis) and always will get their electoral asses handed to them. So they have to travel the scandal route. It didn't work with Reagan (Iran Contra I had no problem with. Thanks to a bunch of weak-kneed liberal wussies in Congress, we could no longer fund an active insurgency in Nicaragua.) and it won't work with Bush.

 

Yawn....the ties between the Bush Family and the House of Saud are deep and go way back. The only thing made up is the fact that the book about it claims that its a "secret relationship" when if fact it's quite open. It's public knowledge that Bandar sleeps over with the Bushies whenver he's in town and that sort of thing.


Since you want to talk about history though, I'm glad you brought up the fact that you have no problem with Iran Contra....I take it therefore you approve of negotiating with terrorists and give them arms in exchange for hostages? That's odd, I think I've heard you say before that terrorists (Iranian backed guerillas were the ones holding the hostages) shouldn't be negotiated with and we could blast them all to smithereens. Of course, we could have just dealt with Hezbollah and Iran the first time when they murdered 287 of your fellow marines in Beirut....but instead President Ronnie tucked the old tail between his legs and pulled out quicker than a teenager without a condom. Those two appeasing Neville Chamberlin like approaches pretty much set the stage for the rest of islamic terrorism for the next decade, all thanks to Ronald Reagan, winner of the cold war and terrorism's enabler.

 

I've got to say that this is one of the funniest things I've read here in a while, on many levels, but mostly for the irony. The Republicans spent the entire Clinton years spending millions of our tax dollars trying to dig up some kind of scandal on the Clinton Administration, since they couldn't attack him on one of their pet issues, the economy, among other reasons. I wish you would make an attempt to be even a little even-handed with junk like this, but I guess it's hopeless.

 

This is the official Republican version of evenhandedness. It comes down from the top. If the wussy Democrats in Congress would learn to play the game this way it would be a more even fight.

 

Amen. It's the same thing on the "talking head" shows... the Democrats are always getting "talked over" by the Republican people, who ignore the fact that the Democratic people didn't interrupt them. Sometimes it drives me crazy. I know that isn't always the case, but it is more often than not. It's past time for the Republicans to take a little of their own medicine. Way past time.