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Bush Covered It

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Feb 16, 2004.

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  1. giddyup

    giddyup Member

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    I got this from a friend:


    Bush Covered It!


    You know, it is easy to forget the 'promises' that Bill and Hillary made while in office. It strikes home when it is listed like this:


    After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    BUSH COVERED IT!

    After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    BUSH COVERED IT!

    After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    BUSH COVERED IT!

    After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible! would be hunted down and punished.

    BUSH COVERED IT!

    After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    BUSH COVERED IT!

    Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are now dead would be alive today.

    BUSH TOLD THOSE FIREMAN -- THEY WOULD HEAR US TOO!

    And, now that Bush is taking action to bring these people to justice, we have Democrats charging him with being a war monger.

    AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call-in show. Without casting stones, it is a legitimate question. There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity. The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the past eight years than Osama bin Laden?


    THINK ABOUT IT!


    It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forthcoming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who have spent the past 8 years being unable to recall anything about past events while under oath!

    Sincerely, Cmdr Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret)

    P. S. Please forward.
     
  2. GladiatoRowdy

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    Because the Republican Congress consistently cut funding levels for terrorism, calling the expenditures "irresponsible" and "a waste of money."

    Remember, Clinton spent more than any president in history (until after 9/11) on anti- and counter-terrorism and was hammered for it by the Republicans in Congress.

    Weak.
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    Overstocked with Bourbon?

    [​IMG]

    Bush covered it! :D
     
  4. Mulder

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    Schinanigans!!!!!

    They took gullible out of the dictionary too.

    From Snopes.com

    Claim: _ The Clinton administration failed to track down the perpetrators of several terrorist attacks against Americans.

    Status: _ False.

    Example: _ [Collected on the Internet, 2001]


    After the 1993 World Trade Centre bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1996 al-Khobar towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 US military personnel, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 1998 bombing of US embassies in Africa, which killed 257 and injured 5,000, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured three US sailors, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

    Maybe if Mr Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 7,000 more people would be alive today.





    Origins: _ In

    chronological order:


    On 26 February 1993, a car loaded with 1,200 pounds of explosives blew up in a parking garage under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring about a thousand others. The blast did not, as its planners intended, bring down the towers — that was finally accomplished by flying two hijacked airliners into the twin towers on the morning of 11 September 2001.

    Four followers of the Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman were captured, convicted of the World Trade Center bombing in March 1994, and sentenced to 240 years in prison each. The purported mastermind of the plot, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, was captured in 1995, convicted of the bombing in November 1997, and also sentenced to 240 years in prison. One additional suspect fled the U.S. and is believed to be living in Baghdad.

    On 13 November 1995, a bomb was set off in a van parked in front of an American-run military training center in the Saudi Arabian capital of Riyadh, killing five Americans and two Indians. Saudi Arabian authorities arrested four Saudi nationals whom they claim confessed to the bombings, but U.S. officials were denied permission to see or question the suspects before they were convicted and beheaded in May 1996.

    On 25 June 1996, a booby-trapped truck loaded with 5,000 pounds of explosives was exploded outside the Khobar Towers apartment complex which housed United States military personnel in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killing nineteen Americans and wounding about three hundred others. Once again, the U.S. investigation was hampered by the refusal of Saudi officials to allow the FBI to question suspects.

    On 21 June 2001, just before the American statute of limitations would have expired, a federal grand jury in Alexandria, Virginia, indicted thirteen Saudis and an unidentified Lebanese chemist for the Khobar Towers bombing. The suspects remain in Saudi custody, beyond the reach of the American justice system. (Saudi Arabia has no extradition treaty with the U.S.)

    On 7 August 1998, powerful car bombs exploded minutes apart outside the United States embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing 224 people and wounding about 5,000 others. Four participants with ties to Osama bin Laden were captured, convicted in U.S. federal court, and sentenced to life in prison without parole in October 2001. Fourteen other suspects indicted in the case remain at large, and three more are fighting extradition in London.

    On 12 October 2000, two suicide bombers detonated an explosives-laden skiff next to the USS Cole while it was refueling in Aden, Yemen, blasting a hole in the ship that killed 17 sailors and injured 37 others. No suspects have yet been arrested or indicted. The investigation has been hampered by the refusal of Yemini officials to allow FBI agents access to Yemeni nationals and other suspects in custody in Yemen.

    (The USS Cole bombing occurred one month before the 2000 presidential election, so even under the best of circumstances it was unlikely that the investigation could have been completed before the end of President Clinton's term of office three months later.)


    In August 1998, President Clinton ordered missile strikes against targets in Afghanistan in an effort to hit Osama bin Laden, who had been linked to the embassy bombings in Africa (and was later connected to the attack on the USS Cole). The missiles reportedly missed bin Laden by a few hours, and Clinton was widely criticized by many who claimed he had ordered the strikes primarily to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. As John F. Harris wrote in The Washington Post:


    In August 1998, when [Clinton] ordered missile strikes in an effort to kill Osama bin Laden, there was widespread speculation — from such people as Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) — that he was acting precipitously to draw attention away from the Monica S. Lewinsky scandal, then at full boil. Some said he was mistaken for personalizing the terrorism struggle so much around bin Laden. And when he ordered the closing of Pennsylvania Avenue in front of the White House after domestic terrorism in Oklahoma City, some Republicans accused him of hysteria.

    . . . the federal budget on anti-terror activities tripled during Clinton's watch, to about $6.7 billion. After the effort to kill bin Laden with missiles in August 1998 failed — he had apparently left a training camp in Afghanistan a few hours earlier — recent news reports have detailed numerous other instances, as late as December 2000, when Clinton was on the verge of unleashing the military again. In each case, the White House chose not to act because of uncertainty that intelligence was good enough to find bin Laden, and concern that a failed attack would only enhance his stature in the Arab world.

    . . . people maintain Clinton should have adapted Bush's policy promising that regimes that harbor terrorism will be treated as severely as terrorists themselves, and threatening to evict the Taliban from power in Afghanistan unless leaders meet his demands to produce bin Laden and associates. But Clinton aides said such a policy — potentially involving a full-scale war in central Asia — was not plausible before politics the world over became transformed by one of history's most lethal acts of terrorism.

    Clinton's former national security adviser, Samuel R. Berger . . . said there [was] little prospect . . . that Pakistan would have helped the United States wage war against bin Laden or the Taliban in 1998, even after such outrages as the bombing of U.S. embassies overseas.

    Update: _ In January 2004 a version of the 2001 e-mail with "BUSH COVERED IT!" inserted after each entry began to be circulated on the Internet. Must be an election year.

    Last updated: _ 27 January 2004

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  5. giddyup

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    So Clinton was able to arrest the immediate perpetrators. Good for him. Thanks, job well done! What about the root-seeds of the terror?

    I'm glad that Clilnton at least fired a missile at Osama but there was an undeniable (maybe just unlucky) pattern of military action on bad news days for Bill Clinton, the man.

    So the Federal budget on anti-terror activities tripled during Clinton's watch or did the Republican Congress consistently cut funding levels for terrorism... which is it?

    The funny thing is that this was sent to me by a Democratic friend who is pro-War. I thought there weren't any of those?
     
  6. RocketMan Tex

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    Why does Snopes.Com hate America so much???
     
  7. Mulder

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    So I guess the moral of the story is that you shouldn't take every email you get at face value.

    BTW, Last time I checked Bush hadn't caught the "root cause" either...
     
  8. basso

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    hmmm, and there's no connection between iraq and international terrorism?
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Funding levels tripled, but would have increased more if the Republican Congress hadn't blocked Clinton's efforts.

    If Clinton had tried to go after Osama in earnest (sans 9/11), he would have been crucified for a "wag the dog" war as he was after he launched the missiles.

    Can you even attempt to take off your GOP colored glasses?
     
  10. Mulder

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    Name ONE country where terrorists are not hiding...
    While I'm not arguing the point that the Hussein government has given money to fund terrorism, one terrorist hiding out in a country is a pretty weak arguement for a connection to that country and terrorism. If that was the only criteria, there would be a link from every country to international terrorism. I'm sure there is lots of evidence out there to prove a link to terrorism, but this ain't one of them.
     
  11. pgabriel

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    What if the guy would have fled to Mexico?
     
  12. basso

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    you're smarter than this i think. the link between iraq and terrorism doesn't depend on one guy, although for me, if say, that one guy were abul nidal, that'd be proof enough. oh wait! abu nidal was hiding in baghdad!
     
  13. giddyup

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    I simply posted it; I didn't endorse it. As I noted, it wasn't sent to me by a Republican source.

    No, Bush hasn't caught him but they are after him and they will get him.

    If I get dizzy from spinning events, will I get un-dizzy by reading the other side also spinning events? :D
     
  14. giddyup

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    Lichtenstein.
     
  15. giddyup

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    Originally posted by andymoon
    If Clinton had tried to go after Osama in earnest (sans 9/11), he would have been crucified for a "wag the dog" war as he was after he launched the missiles.

    <b>Easy to say, hard to prove. Those criticisms were very date-specific.</b>

    Can you even attempt to take off your GOP colored glasses?

    <b>I don't wear glasses. I will if you will.</b>
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    What are you talking about? The Lewinsky debacle was pushed to the top of the headlines by the GOP all the way to the end of his presidency. If he had tried to really go after Osama (without the support of the GOP dominated Congress), the "wag the dog" cry after the cruise missles would have been amplified like a Metallica concert.

    As I have mentioned before, I am an independent and as such, my glasses are free of Rep. and Dem. coloring. I have the ability to see the flaws in the Democratic party, but you continually appear to be a GOP apologist.
     
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    Originally posted by andymoon
    What are you talking about? The Lewinsky debacle was pushed to the top of the headlines by the GOP all the way to the end of his presidency. If he had tried to really go after Osama (without the support of the GOP dominated Congress), the "wag the dog" cry after the cruise missles would have been amplified like a Metallica concert.

    <B>Wasn't there an impeachment going on? That deserves headlines. Clinton still had a responsibility to be presidential. If there was a case to be made for going after Osama he should have made it and pressed for public support. It's called Leadership. Bush is getting assailed for it now and he had a great but tragic launching point: 9/11. Notice that he's not backing off?!</b>


    As I have mentioned before, I am an independent and as such, my glasses are free of Rep. and Dem. coloring. I have the ability to see the flaws in the Democratic party, but you continually appear to be a GOP apologist.

    <b>You say you are independent, but practically everything relative you post is anti-Bush and pro-Clinton.

    I am mainly a board-balancer. How I feel in my heart is not nearly so important.</b>
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Damn it Mulder, I was ready to roll when I first started reading this thread cause I knew that stuff was on Snopes already but you beat me to it.

    Anyway, Let's try to salvage something out of this thread.

    Why does right wing/Republican lies/propaganda get spread around by e-mail like this and like in the Social Security lie e-mail thread: http://bbs.clutchcity.net/php3/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64279 get spread around the internet b y gullible people?

    How come there are not corresponding left wing propaganda/lie emails? Is it a difference in tactics? different kind of people? what gives?
    :confused:
     
  19. giddyup

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    Apparently you need to bone up on your skim-reading skills. This was sent to me by a Democratic acquaintance of mine.

    Why would you need email chains when you have the mainstream press? :D
     
  20. Mulder

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    I know we try to stay tongue in cheek for the most part in this forum but I just don't understand why people post this stuff without checking it out first... The only reason this should have been posted is with the caveat, This is a flaming bag of monkey poo, distribute as needed.

    [​IMG]

    :D
     
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