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Bush Blames Slow Economy on Cable News?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Aug 13, 2003.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I'm glad that this President knows how to take responsibility and not pass the buck. It's also is odd that the story was leaked about Andrew Card using the media to hype the Presidents numbers with the war, and not Bush is blaming them for that very coverage.


    http://www.helenair.com/articles/2003/08/02/national/a02080203_03.txt
     
  2. SamFisher

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    I can't believe that idiot just said that or that this idiocy has not been more widely reported. This has got to be a joke, right?
     
  3. Friendly Fan

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    Bush reads the lines they give him, after Karl Rove tells the writers what to write. Rove's evil mind. Peggy Noonan's slippery words.

    Of course, that squint is his.
     
  4. Achebe

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    This man is truly peculiar. Does he make sense to anyone?

    If so, explain why. In the text of your reply, please list your highest grade completed.

    If available, please include your IQ.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Jesus, why not blame it on malaise?

    And, by the way, who invented the news story in the first place by starting an unnecessary, unjust war? If true, it's just one more way Bush has been bad for the economy.
     
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    Condi, I wanna declare war on CNN and MSNBC, but not my cousin's network. Can you fix it?
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Exactly even if somehow the news coverage of the lead up to war really did play a part in the economy, somehow it's the medias fault for covering the events that he created?

    There is just so much wrong with this story that I don't know where to start.
     
  8. MacBeth

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    Not to defend Bush, God knows, but unless his seeming imperviousness to his screw ups coming back on him continues, he is about to face something which I find really annoying: The media's tendancy to treat itself like a sacred cow, and close ranks whenever anyone criticizes them. I'm not saying that Bush's argument here makes sense, in fact he has enjoyed an amazingly free ride from the media for the most part, particularly leading up to and during the war, but an example of how the media, collectively, sees itself was evident tonight on MSNBC when discussing this. One of the commentators said that A) Bush, as with all politicians, tend to overblow the responsibility has for their own mistakes ( the politician's)...and B) He should never criticize the media because the media is how you get your messages out. In other words, we have no part in things going wrong, but are needed for things to go well.


    Generally, firing off on the media will tend to make them close against you and overcome the usual partisan/idealogical loyalties of their respective outlets. Usually the media's number one loyalty is to itself.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    I agree the media are not sacred by an stretch of the imagination. I think there are plenty of times to attack them, and I often do so. Saying that the media's covering events initiated by you, are in part responsible for the poor economy isn't one of the times to attack them.

    I believe you were probably just using this story to launch into an unrelated criticism of the media which I agree with, and not defending Bush's claims. Correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Tabling the breathtaking stupidity of the economics behind this, the offensive part is not just that he is whining about coverage about events wholly orchetstrated by him and his admin, but he's whining abou coverage that he and his political team have exploited and benefitted immensely from and are keeping him in office.

    This is like b****ing after winnin g the lottery about having to deposit those hugeass checks every month. But it's actually worse, because he rigged the lottery, so to speak.
     
  11. MacBeth

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    Correct; his rationale, at least on the face of it, seems ludicrous.


    It's just that watching the media act shocked and outraged when someone suggests that they have done something wrong, or could do something wrong always irritates me; who will watch the watchdogs in another context. In this case they are correct, IMO, but their response is consistently the same: Don't shoot the messenger, we do no wrong, etc. In principle I agree with that, but they extend it to amazing degrees, and apply it without exception.
     
  12. Friendly Fan

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    Here's the title to the thread

    Bush Blames Slow Economy on Cable News


    The news needs to respond with

    Cable News Blames Slow Bush for Economy
     
  13. glynch

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    "On some TV screens there was a constant reminder for the American people — ‘March to War.'

    God, Dubya doesn't even want the people to have it discussed on TV, not even by the prowar cheerleaders on Fox.

    Dubya should just declare war and we should go. No need to worry our pretty little heads about it.

    The man is a dangerous megalomaniac, with dictatorial tendencies!

    He must have been speaking without reading a script, but it is stil chilling to see how he feels.
     
  14. Rocketman95

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    Just thought this was funny and I saw it on cable news.

    "Mr. President, what do you think about Arnold Schwartzenegger running for governor of California and would you consider campaigning for him?"

    "I won't arm wrestle Arnold Schwartzenegger."

    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA?

    :D

    Sorry, carry on.
     
  15. SWTsig

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    automatic "Hall of Fame" post. you should get a medal.

    seriously.
     
  16. No Worries

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    Bush does not take responsibility for anything bad that might happen, only the good.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

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    What Bush said is absolutely true. It's easy for you financial simpletons to dismiss it as "blaming cable news", but there is no question that the *possibility* of war in the late part of last year and early part of 2003 was an overhang on the financial markets. Investors place a premium on certainty of cash flows. War, coupled with threats of terrorist retaliation, puts that certainty in question. This led to an environment of risk aversion, which can be crippling for an economy in desparate need of capital investment. The recovery we have seen recently is truly remarkable. Bush's team continues to successfully lead the economy out of the hard landing from the tech boom/bust cycle, the corporate scandals from the late 90's, the terrorist strikes on NYC and Washington, and now a war in Iraq -- and it has been nothing short of brilliant. Today's jobless claims number came in better than expected -- more good news on the employment front. Economic growth is creeping up to a 3% annualized number, and investors are beginning to return to the markets. As the tools of monetary and fiscal policy begin to kick in, the economy will benefit greatly. Bush and team have been nothing but accommodative in their efforts to boost the economic fortunes of all Americans.
     
  18. robbie380

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    yes and to quote jim rome "water is wet"...what else is new? what politicians do try to take credit for the bad stuff?
     
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    Is that why a lot of bad stocks ran up stupidly around March and have flattened out since then?
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Clown. BTW, If I had a nickel for every time you predicted an imminent economic recovery right aroudn the corner, there would be one.
     

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