this is Sam Smith.. so I hesitate to post it here, but he is the writer for an official nba site now. http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/smith_091109.html The article is talking about the possibility of the Bulls getting LeBron... so you know the context of this discussion.
McGrady would absolutely love to play with superstars like James and Oneal - his dream come true - but there's no motivation for Houston to do a deal. We'd have little interest in Big Z, Anthony Parker, Jamario Moon, etc. BTW I never get tired of reading about how so many folks in the league are singing the Rockets' praises. That Jerry Sloan quote is sig-worthy.
Not enough pieces to make it work...basically quantity over quality. I don't want to even discuss Gibson and Delonte West would have been intriguing until he melted down. They would bascially have to trade half the guys they got in free agency to even get close to making this work. I did have one thought that crossed my mind...lets say they continue to struggle and its obivous the Shaq/Lebron thing aint happening.... Tmac for SHAQ???? It works and would give us the inside presence we need but of course there are other issues to deal with.
TMac Salary: 22.843M Z Salary: 11.541M It's tough to package anything until Dec 15th when they can package other players in like Varejao to make salaries match. I'd also make them give up at least a 1st round pick with this trade.
No No a thousand times NO! I would rather have my eyes gouged out than watch a single game with Shaq on this team. "The Big Albatross" has been taking down teams right and left since he left Miami. Ask PDX how great it was having him as a teammate.
That's an interesting idea. I'm guessing there are better deals to be made that would benefit the team long term (draft picks and such). But Shaq would certainly fit a short term need. It all comes back to how management perceives the ceiling of the team. If they think this team can make a run, then they'll make the short term deals, if they don't think so then they'll make the long term deal.
Varejao? don't tell me you want Big Z AND Side show bob? you know Varejao is making $6-9 million until 2014?
Z for Mac? Sam Smith usually will write up about 7-8 of these a season depending on which "disgruntled star" he pull out of a hat. Stay tuned for the Bosh for Jerome James article coming out soon. I don't put it past Morey to trade Mac but not for Z + Guards that can't get it done with all the attention on Lebron.
If you are going to trade t-mac for anyone, it has to be someone athletic with size...otherwise we just better off letting him walk at the end of the season.
I'm just saying that's the only way to make the trade work which is why draft picks would also have to be involved. Sam Smith is an idiot anyways... there is a 0% chance this will happen.
I wouldn't trade Tracy unless it was for a homerun young buck type player at the trade deadline. Z at 11+ million it atrocious and he doesn't fit into a run and gun type offense.
I'm looking, but they have garbage! Mo Williams would be nice but he's getting payed till 2012. their young talent sucks and the wings(Parker, Moon) are athletic but over paid. ($3mil.)
No way I'd do this trade. Big z is definately not a solution to our problems, he's not what we need backing up Yao IMO. I think with Yao off the court we need a 7footer who can block shots and run, and then run some more. Who can defend the pNr, big z can do this, so all in all, he has the same weaknesses as Yao without the same upside. I wouldn't do it if they threw in a first rounder either, it'd be a late pick and we can get better than that even if it means keeping mac. Teams that went all in and messed up their cap and are playing bad will be lookin to give contracts away at the deadline, look the cavs r in that mode already. We DO NOT have to give away tmac like everyone thinks, bc we are a good team with or without him, so we have the luxury of playing hardball!
Agree, those where the "other" issues I was worried about. I will say in the big guys defense we are not the Suns(SSOL) we are more the Kings of the early decade so he would have to bascially be what the Suns envisioned but lived out here. It really just intrigues me to see what would happen with Shaq in the middle and all these different pieces revolving around him in constant motion much like what will happen when Yao returns.
Forget Z, Anthony Parker, Daniel Gibson, and Jamario Moon. I would rather keep playing Budinger, Ariza, Battier, Brooks, and Lowry. The Kevin Martin and Nocioni scenario is better than the Cleveland scenario. It's really sad how low T-Mac's value is. Teams will only give us injured scorers on bad contracts or a retiring center and worse guards. Fans expecting a star like Chris Paul or Joe Johnson are unrealistic.
