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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tozai, May 31, 2003.

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  1. tozai

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    Says JVG very likely to close deal with Cavs. Also says Silas most likely going to Philly due to money and best fit. Sounds like Dunleavy for us...ugh...
     
  2. NJRockFan

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    dunleavy is a good coach. I tend to think he may have been the #1 option all along. We have no choice but to wait on the Rox to make a decision. In the long run, I'm sure we'll be happy with the direction the Rockets take.
     
  3. JayZ750

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    What about Carlisle...
     
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    Bucher said Carlisle was pretty emotional in his response and felt sour about the situation. Carlisle said he didn't really want to go back to coach immediately and was looking into TV. Bucher believed that this was just an at-the-moment response and it could change.
     
  6. Jeff

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    I like Mike Dunleavy the person but am I the only one who thinks he is like Rudy Part Deux. If the Rockets really needed a change to a tougher more disciplined coach to gain the respect and attention of the players, Dunleavy just doesn't seem like that guy.

    Of course, when they hired Rudy, I was like, WTF??? So, who knows.
     
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    I guess I agree with you, although I like Mike Dunleavy the coach, too. I think he is a pretty good X's and O's guy and has a good grasp of what needs to get done to be successful both offensively and defensively. But, in that he is the most alike to Rudy of the bunch, I think you're right, and that drops him down a couple of notches.
     
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    Jeff I couldnt agree with you more. It wouldnt be much of a change surely they want change?
     
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    Jeff,
    What about Riley?
     
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    Must get Rick. Even better than Larry. Absolutely the right guy. Detroit will regret this.
     
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    THe only thing about Rick, is that we need some serious offensive discipline. Rick doesn't seem to be the number one guy as far as that goes.
     
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    from : SI.com

    Desperate measures

    Brown turns down better lifestyles for chance at title

    Posted: Saturday May 31, 2003 2:17 PM


    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich was asked last week how important winning an NBA title was to his good friend Larry Brown. "Very important," Popovich said without hesistation. "He wants to win one very badly."

    Brown apparently wants to win one so badly he's willing to give up the favored lifestyle offered in L.A., Denver or Houston. But while the Clippers, Rockets or Nuggets might have offered his wife better shopping or prettier scenery, Detroit offers him a chance to stay in the East and win right away. At age 62, Brown knows he might not have many more chances.

    Brown will be a good teacher for the Pistons' young core of Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Mehmut Okur and, eventually, Darko Milicic or Carmelo Anthony.

    His job will be to make Detroit more explosive and fun to watch, without yielding its bedrock defensive principles. In that regard, Brown's approach will be a little different than that of Rick Carlisle, whose reluctance to play the youngters as much led to some friction in the front office.

    But Brown's hiring could be a train wreck in terms of front-office dynamics. The Pistons, after all, already have team president Joe Dumars, the Executive of the Year, and GM John Hammond.

    Will Brown, who is notorious for wanting to tinker with his roster and who had near total control over such matters in Philadelphia, be happy just handling Xs and Os?

    As for Carlisle, he now joins the list of hot coaching names on the carousel. The Wizards might be a good fit, given Carlisle's ties to the area as a former college star at Virginia. Or he could decide to sit out a year and go back into broadcasting, then watch his stock soar next season as other openings become available.

    With Brown's status now apparently resolved, look for the other coaching dominoes to fall rapidly. For example, it now looks likely that Jeff Van Gundy will go to Cleveland, Paul Silas to Philadelphia, Mike Fratello to New Orleans and Mike Dunleavy to either Houston or Atlanta.

    Of course, as the Carlisle situation shows, nothing can be ruled out in this craziest of NBA offseasons.
     
  13. JoeBarelyCares

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    I would prefer a "player's coach" that could recruit top FA talent, as long as he is also a good X's and O's guy. Would Dunleavy fit this bill?
     
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    Yup, Dunleavy is just a Rudy clone. If we are just going to hire Dunleavy or Silas, might as well have kept Rudy.
     
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    You're not the only person. And this is the primary reason I think Van Gundy would be a good choice. If we're going to make a coaching change, it should be a <b>change</b>! Otherwise it just seems detrimental. Say what you want about Van Gundy, but his coaching style is definitely not like Rudy T.
     
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    I agree too, Jeff. I also think they same can be said for Paul Silas.
     
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    I agree- Jeff and Bubba mac-

    If we hire Dunleavy - we are hiring a pushover like Rudy. We will be regressing-

    This will be change purely for the sake of change. this does not bode well.
     
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    WTF? I had ESPN on mute. I saw Carlisle then Brown and I figured that Carlisle was quitting in order to join one of the new vacancies. Then I find out he was FIRED? What the hell? That team probably overacheived more than any other team in the league. They did get swept, but they were about one to two posessions from being up 2-0.

    In any case, we might lose out on Brown, Van Gundy, and Silas now? How'd this happen? I thought we were the #1 or #2 choice before. This coaching carousel is getting ridiculous. With that said, I wouldn't mind CARLISLE!
     
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    You guys are naysayers if you think MD can't turn things around and do it differently than RT did. So outside of being a guy who is "respected by his players" (I'm tired of seeing "player's coach") what other similarities do you really see that makes him a RT clone? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that MD would take the Rockets back to the finals within 4 years. I say give the guy some credit cause he'll do great if he's the next Head Coach.
     
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    The difference between Brown and Dunleavy is Brown wouldve had the team's respect before he even got off the plane. The team knows who is he. They also know Brown's attitutde and impatience with lazy players. Brown's reputation as king of the mountain precedes him.

    Mike Dunleavy? Dunleavy is a good coach. I remember when he played on the Rockets. He was a smart heady player. In fact, during the season I even suggested he'd make a fine assistant coach because he knows basketball.

    Any coach replacing Rudy is better than having Rudy. This isn';t a knock on Rudy but the players just became "too comfortable" with Rudy. Now, even if Dunleavy has a similiar personality, the players aren't 100% sure what to expect other than the fact the owner was pissed they didn't make the playoffs.

    Now the issue becomes: How do the Rockets perceive Dunleavy (if he is indeed the choice).

    If they feel he has the power to scream, yell, and potentially trade them to Siberia (aka the Clippers), then it's a good thing.

    If they feel he's just another coach who has some input but CD is still in control, then maybe not.

    Players in Portland knew Whitsett ran the show and Dunleavy had no power. So when Rasheed Wallace went after Dunleavy in the locker room, there were no consequences. Suspension? Big deal. Rasheed is still on the team and Dunleavy was out of a job. There's your message.

    Whatever happens, no coach would've had the IMMEDIATE impact of a Larry Brown.

    Dunleavy is going to have to earn the respect of his players whereas Brown simply demanded it.

    This better work because no coach will accept less than a 5 year deal and these next 5 years will be critical to Steve and Yao's development. This is not the time to get a 2nd tier coach or become hesitant on a living legend.
     

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