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Brooks = Lucus

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by davidkconover, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. davidkconover

    davidkconover Member

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    I don't really see a difference between Brooks and Lucus. Both are quality shooters from the outside. Both are really, really fast. But both are way under sized and don't stand a chance to contribute to this ROX squad. I really don't see one being better than the other and I remember most of this board being so, so gung ho over Lucas the same way they are over Brooks right now.

    Bottom line is neither one has the size or strength to contribute big minutes to this team THIS year. Case in point... and this happened last night... every time either one of them plays... the opposing team goes right at them... posting them up. This rarely happens against Rafer/James and never happens against Stevie.

    We have a 4 to 6 window to win 4 to 6 titles. TMac... Yao... Battier... Scola... Hayes are all coming into their primes. Rafer, James and Stevie are already there. With that in mind... holding a roster spot for Brooks (or Lucus) shouldn't really be a priority as they are both equal in my opinion.
     
  2. SLrocket

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    i am a homer too, but are you kidding me? lol
     
  3. WhoMikeJames

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    Sorry, but Lucas is nothing like Brooks IMO.

    They might have similar game but put highlights of them from College or something together and Its very different.

    There is a reason Brooks was drafted in the first round. We don't need Lucas.
     
  4. davidkconover

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    Do you think the window is larger than that?
     
  5. Honey Bear

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    This has already been discussed numerous times. Brooks has the speed and explosiveness to be a decent half court PG despite his lack of size. Lucas just doesn't have that, he is deceptively slow. Both of them are good shooters, but only Brooks has the potential to become a playmaker.
     
  6. Plowman

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    Lucas isn't in Brooks's league.

    Aaron can flat out shoot the rock.

    He has a much better feel for the game with even better court vision.The guy is a threat to score and as a playmaker.

    As quick as Lucas is,Brooks has another gear.....and Brooks is smart about how he uses his other wordly speed.

    Opposing teams will have to respect him due to his shot and ability to break down the defense.

    Remember Brooks took Oregon to the elite eight...as a two....led the pac 10 in scoring and is flat out on a another level.The transition to point from two is going nicely.The opnly reason he lasted so long in the draft was because teams weren'r convinced whether he could play the 1 and his size.

    Aaron can get to the hoop at will while drawing fouls or making sweet passes for easy buckets.....smart player to go along with his freakish speed,long arms,big hands,and a great shot.
    There's a reason he stood out as the best player on USA SELECT with guys that had been in the league for 2- 4 years.
    I think this kid will one day be an all star.

    Aaron will soon be the starting point for us and Lucas will be gone.
     
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    JL3 is a complete zero unless he is shooting the ball and scoring. Brooks has floor vision and knows how to set up other players. Last night, Brooks had a couple of very sweet passes that JL3 wouldn't have made in a million years.
     
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    when x = talent:

    Aaron Brooks = JL3 + X

    or put another way

    Brooks - X = JL3.

    JL3 sucks almost as bad a JVG. and that's a lot of suck.
     
  10. jasonemilio

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    Dude Brooks is taller than Lucas....and that 1 inch difference makes a big difference. I watched Lucas play all the time when he was playing for Oklahoma State, and even I admit that Brooks is a lot better than Lucas, as much as I like him.
     
  11. okierock

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    You are full of crap.

    Stats do not support any of your statements they are all opinion with no basis in reality. Oh and Lucas lead OSU to the final four.
     
  12. lost_elephant

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    Brooks is a good shooter either off the dribble, or as a spot shooter. Lucas isn't a good set shooter, he can shoot, but he has to be in rhythm.

    Brooks is considerably more athletic. Not only is he slightly faster, north-south, side-side, he also has quicker hands and is more explosive.

    Brooks is excellent moving off of the ball. He can finish in traffic. Both of these are not a part of Lucas' game.
     
  13. mlwoo

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    When the Rockets drafted Brooks, I felt the exact same way. I even sent out a text message to all my friends saying "why did we just draft John Lucas IV?"

    I know now that this was pure prejudice based on size and speed.

    There are two main differences I see:
    1. Brooks is not scared to finish at the rim. He blew by three defenders last night and got that baseline layup where he finished at the rim. He was struggling through training camp and the beginning of preseason finishing at the rim but seems a little more confident with the small window he have to view him. That said, when was the last time you saw JL3 ever finish at the rim. I'm not talking about driving in out of control and jacking up a tear drop. I'm talking at the rim.

    2. Lucas is not the same shooter as Brooks. Never will be.

    I feel Brooks has under control speed and a much quicker first step.

    I'm not saying he will play this year, but if we ever were going to have any D-league guys, it would be Brooks and Landry.

    I get squeemish watching Lucas out there, while I get excited waiting for Brooks to contribute.
     
  14. equinoxin

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    How does AB compare with AI?

    Both got quickness, both are about the same size. AB should be more of a pg, AI got two weapons, quickness and fearlessness. AB seems to have those, but less. But AB has an even better shooting touch. Their pass should be about the same. Not sure about the defense.
     
  15. Plowman

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    Listen..first off,why are you resorting to that kind of language?It's flat out insulting and inmature.Are you his Dad or something?Even though it states I've been on since 2006,I've been around since 99.I don't know where you get off.Don't you even think about ever talking to me like that again.I'm serious.You might love OSU but I'm warning you....ONCE!I really think an apology is in order.If you want to have an intelligent conversation about this fine,but don't lead off with what you did.

    ...And why don't you take a look at the rest of that OSU team? Oregon didn't have even close to the amount of talent that your Cowboys had.Lucas didn't lead that team to the final four....There was plenty of juice on OSU that year.
     
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  16. rsx_htown

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    their college stats are eerily comparable
     
  17. rsx_htown

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    lol wow a.i is on a completely different level then AB dont ever bring that up
     
  18. Patience

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    LOL. "Lucas" is not spelled like "mucus."
     
  19. rofflesaurus

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    the Lucas to Brooks comparison is very similar to the Francis to James comparison.

    Francis and James are both combo guards, but when James is on the court the offense flows much better than when Francis is on the court. that's why James is backing up Rafer, and Francis will barely make the rotation.

    the same is with Lucas and Brooks. Brooks is better than Lucas overall, and that's why he'll just make the team, and Lucas will be cut :D
     
  20. DrNuegebauer

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    There's no doubt Brooks is better - Lucas has the 'potential' to be a 3rd string PG in this league, while Brooks has the 'potential' to start.

    You can't tell me that Lucas is anywhere near as good a shooter as Brooks.
     

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